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Willy-N    Posted 03-01-2004 at 17:25:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
I have spent weeks finishing the Goverment Paper Work for the Water Tender. Now I am down to the last step. I got on the Goverment site with a freind computer to finish a form. Mind stopped theres from linking up due to Cookies?? Now the kicker insurance!! They want 2 million $$$ liability coverage in case someone trips over a hose from my truck. That is 1,800.00 a year and the Truck insurance is another $1,200. per 6 months! That does not even cover my truck just the other guy! I even have a 7 year plus clean driving record too! I have to have them all in effect several months befor the season starts also. Glad I do not have a employie it would double those figures. Venting doesn't help the process and this year since they changed all the rules there will be a lot less people to fight fires with contract equipment. I hope it is not a bad season because the support will not be there to put them out like it was last year. Haft the people are not even signed up and they have till March 16 to get it done or it is to late. I have at least 1 inch of paper work I have done so far. If I had known this I never would have started the process but I am in to deep now to quit. They better call me out or all this was for nothing! Mark H.

toolman    Posted 03-01-2004 at 18:48:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
do you remember when way back i suggested that you might want to consider selling that rig, also remember i told you my wife works in the govt./ins bussiness, it,s bad here and we have a good ins.system (fairly cheap) have fun and remember all them govt. employees that need something to do to justifly their wages.think of all the work your providing for them ,lol.

Willy-N    Posted 03-01-2004 at 19:49:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
I was thinking of it today!! I figure I must have given a few people A JOB just taking care of all the paper work I have done. I don't give up easy tho have set up 3 businesses allready befor. Mark H.

fredo.    Posted 03-01-2004 at 17:32:39       [Reply]  [Send Email]

Willy-N    Posted 03-01-2004 at 17:48:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
I have to charge for it. They pay 1,200.00 a day when it is out for 12 hours (12 on 12 off) or 8 hours min @ 100.00 a hour. So it is going to about a month of fires to break even befor I realy get a check after I pay the truck off and all the other stuff. Also that is if nothing breaks while doing it. Mark H.

deadcarp    Posted 03-01-2004 at 18:08:37       [Reply]  [No Email]
Good luck mark - anything with bureuocracies can be an absolute pain! I think because so many bureaucrats are scared to decide anything. (The old "me first" thing.)
But they understand forms so if you ever get to the LAST form, you might offer them one of these:

Willy-N    Posted 03-01-2004 at 19:54:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
I like it! Lot shorter then the 34 page spec sheet they gave me with the fine print including the equil right employment section. OH they also told me in a form I could not carry a pocket knife longer then 2 1/2 inches unless it was a leatherman knife. Part I can't figure is what about my Hook Axe and Polaskie which would make a much better weapon to use. Both are very sharp! Mark H.

Coon Catcher Clay    Posted 03-01-2004 at 18:02:50       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hey Willy-N

You better talk to the other contract carriers and find out how long it takes to get paid AFTER you have built up several weeks of service.Like you say ,you have gone this far but if you only get paid once or twice a year you might want to sell that rig before you insure and tag it

Willy-N    Posted 03-01-2004 at 20:03:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yes the Pay part. They pay 30 days after the fire is over or your released. Now if you want to get paid sooner than that if you give them a discount on what they owe you they will. They had a section on the contract what percent to deduct if they pay in 5, 10 or 20 days instead of the regular 30 day period. To me it was like a con job! I said 1% for 20 days, 2% for 10 days and last of all 2 1/2% for pay with in 5 days. They will supply fuel on the fires but deduct it out of what they owe you. That helps because that is a big expense to carry for a month! Mark H.

Alias    Posted 03-01-2004 at 18:30:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
Mark, I've been involved with a lot of government funded projects and what I've found is that under normal circumstances, the pay is usually in 30, 60 or 90 day cycles. In most cases payment is made 30 days following invoice date. sometimes it will go up to 60 days. Any more time than that means something is really snafu'ed and could get almost impossible to extract payment. The best defense is to make sure all the paperwork is in, and all eyes dotted and tees crossed. And, keep good records and copies of everything. Most important, don't let this thing make you want to smoke.....gfp

Willy-N    Posted 03-01-2004 at 20:06:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
I can't let them push me that far! The pay part is not so bad it is laid out in the contract. 30 days or less for percemt deductions in what they owe you. Mark H.

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