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SteveB    Posted 03-03-2004 at 09:51:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
. . . people's lack of common sense and "its not my fault" attitude?

I had 50 chicks ordered through a hatchery in Iowa. Apparantly, someone else on the other side of town also had an order from the same hatchery for the same delivery date and the post office made an error and gave both orders to the other person. The lady took both boxes home, opened them both, and mixed all the chicks together. At this point she realizes she has more chicks than she is supposed to have and looks at the boxes and discovers only one of them was hers.

At this point I got a phone call from her husband explaining the situation. The chicks were all mixed together and there was no way to separate them and be certain I was getting what I ordered. He offered to pay me for them or we could try and separate them. I told him I would place another order with the hatchery and stop in later in the day to collect payment.

I got there later in the afternoon and his wife had them separated into two 30 gallon plastic barrels and informed me "mine" were in one barrel. Looking at them there was no way to know what I was getting with the possible exception of the buff rocks as they didn't have any yellow chicks in their order. The black chicks all looked alike. I told them I would not take them as I already had a confirmed replacement order for delivery next week and there was no way to know if the chicks in the barrel were what I had ordered.

His wife proceeds to go into a rant that it wasn't their fault and they weren't paying for chicks they did not order. She couldn't understand why it was so important that I receive exactly what I ordered and at the very least, take the buff rocks. I wasn't going to take any of these chicks because I already had another order in process, my brooder only holds 50 chicks, and I can't mix 2 day old chicks with 9 day old chicks in the same brooder. I explained to her that if she couldn't take the time to read the mailing label on the box, which I could clearly read from 10 feet away, that she bought those chicks when she opened it and mixed them with theirs.

She left the room to get the phone with the intention of calling the sheriff and her husband took the oportunity to pay me. He at least had a little sense and did not want to get the law involved. Tampering with other people's mail is a federal offense and I could have made things a lot worse for them.

The real losers in this situation were the chicks. These people had no means to care for the chicks they ordered, much less the extra 50 they wound up with. They had been mishandled from the time they were taken out of the box. None of them had any food or water available and they were way over crowded in those barrels.


Okie-Dokie    Posted 03-03-2004 at 18:09:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
And I thought that kind of stuff only happened to me! Out of curiosity, I just called the Post Mistress of the Tiny Town near here. She says your starting place would be to go to the post office and file a claim for a lost package. They will then be able to track it down and most likely the post office will pay you for your lost chickens, because it is the postal clerk's fault the package was mis-delivered. The lady that signed for and took the package can not be held liable for your loss, so she is off the hook and the proud owner of your chickens.


ret    Posted 03-03-2004 at 16:48:33       [Reply]  [No Email]
we always picked up the critters at the post office and signed for them. that way the PO is off the hook. PO made a mistake, the people didn't. AS for opening up the boxes, she probably assumed they were in the two boxes. It wasn't as if they didn't have chicks coming. You are climbing on the wrong people, go down and hollar at the PO
RET


Burrhead    Posted 03-03-2004 at 18:07:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
that's a 10-4 RET ye still have to sign for them at the PO.

The line above where you sign the ticket has the name of the person it should have gone to.

The Post Office sends a copy of the recieving ticket back to the shipper to verify delivery condition and delivery date.

I just can't believe that a person who is smart enuff to make it to the post office would be stupid enuff to not know his own name.

That lippy yuppie and his snipity wife just outright stole them chickens.......and that's the bottom line.



look at it this way    Posted 03-03-2004 at 18:44:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
you go to the PO to pick up some chicks. You have probably waited in line, and finally you say you have an order of chicks. Clerk brings you out a couple of boxes, you don't know they are going to be in one box or two. They tell you to sign so you do. Probably eager to see them, so you open them up without looking a the label. You trying to say you look at a label or name on a letter that comes to your house every time?
I opened my daughters mail last week from the elec company, they have the same one I do. I was expecting my bill. Knew it wasn't mine when it was for $431 . I can't blame the people. And, off hand, why did you say they were yuppies? As for the snippy wife, seems like Steve was already hot when he got there, he might have said something that got her that way. Bottom line PO fault
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Burrhead    Posted 03-03-2004 at 19:11:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
Ye dern right I check all the mail that comes to my house. If it aint mine I don't want it.

Just so you'll know how to tell yuppies.........Them chic rustlin mail thieves have to be yuppies. A real country couple would know the cost and troubles to raise chix, and would have looked at the address and then waited to steal the chickens after they start laying.

I bet Steve was a perfect gentleman til them yuppies called his house badmouthing him and trying to sort the chix so they could keep what they wanted.

He had a right to be snippy cause them folks stole his chickens. When the yuppie called Steve to rub his nose in it that raised the ante.

You need to quit going thru yer kids mail too. Kids deserve privacy too.

Please tell me you was'nt gonna keep your daughter's mail it if it was a fuel adjustment rebate check.

Sometimes folks steal them rebate checks out of the mail and then the power company catches all heck about it.


you bet    Posted 03-04-2004 at 05:38:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
I was hoping it was a rebate check, so I could cash it. In my mailbox, it is mine. Except bills, then throw them away. Let the neighbors have to pay the late charges when they don't get a bill and it don't get paid. How else would you expect a former immigrant from CA, the land of fruits and nuts, to act? Think I will start raiding mailboxes next, might be profitable
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Burrhead    Posted 03-03-2004 at 13:27:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
SteveB You did them folks easier than I would have. You're right -when them chicken rustlers stoled yer chix they violated the federal regs. You can still call the Postal Inspector cause they still stoled your shipment.

Some of these yuppies talking about what you did was wrong and knocking knots on yer head just aint run acrost the right folks.

If anybody and his wife decided to steal my chickens or do like them rustlers did and sort them before they called me so they get to keep the best for themselves I'd cut a hickory switch- head over to the chicken ranch, and set both his and his chicken rustling wife's butt on fire.

Then I'd kick some uh his new fresh chicken poop til I filled all his chicken stealing shirt pockets.

Then fer good measure I'd probly spit snuff juice in his shirt pockets, dynomite his well, and burn the chicken house. Oh yeah- nearly fergot something. I'd shoot his dog and hoss afore I left too.


Dang Burr!!!!    Posted 03-03-2004 at 16:17:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
Why don't ya tell us how ya really feel!!! LMAO!!!

Clipper: who ain't gonna mess wit no chickens!


Donna from Mo    Posted 03-03-2004 at 16:00:42       [Reply]  [No Email]
His HOSS????


Alias    Posted 03-03-2004 at 14:33:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
Burrhead, just so you'll know, I ain't never doing anything to P1$$ you off. Man, you my friend fer life, I hope.......gfp...heheheh


bob ny    Posted 03-03-2004 at 13:52:47       [Reply]  [No Email]
now looky here burhead beating his wife is one thing but his dog shame on you


Burrhead    Posted 03-03-2004 at 14:14:52       [Reply]  [No Email]
yer probly right Bob. On 2nd thought I'd better just wire brush his wife and dog's butts and turpentine them.

That's how ye break a yuppie from getting lippy with ye over yer mail and rustlin yer chickens.


ROFL!!!    Posted 03-03-2004 at 16:19:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
Stop it! Yer killing me here! LOL!!!


Clipper: laffing an fallin down....


steve19438    Posted 03-03-2004 at 10:57:24       [Reply]  [Send Email]
i thought this sort of behavior was limited only to us immoral, ungodly folk in the north. my common sense says you "always" look at the address of a package when it is delivered to you.


Ron/PA    Posted 03-03-2004 at 10:26:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
Steve, ya better calm down.
First of all, when chix are delivered to her house she is not obligated to verify the mailing address unless they need to be signed for.
Next they were not required to phone you and inform you of the mistake. They do have 7 or 10?? days to inform the post office of the mistake, and request that the mis-posted parcell be picked up. The other choice is to contact the shipper, and request that they remedy the situation, in which case they will normally give you the shipment.
They didn't buy those chix, and they aren't responsible for those chix and they certainly weren't responsible to pay you for those chix. That dispute was between her and the supplier, your dispute was between you and the supplier. Both parties have issues with the post office.
Had you showed up at my house, after I made a courtesy call, and yelled at my wife, like that,,,, I'd a layed a couple of eggs on toppa yer head,, LOL
Ron, who's mailed wayyyy too many chix to wanna deal with this battle.


Bob    Posted 03-03-2004 at 10:37:34       [Reply]  [No Email]
Ron,

You said it better than me!

I sure hope no raving loonie shows up at my house to agravate my wife over SOMEONE ELSE'S MISTAKE!


CAH    Posted 03-03-2004 at 10:16:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
I could not agree more with the "it's not my fault" attitude of many or most people. I get sick of hearing how everything is someone elses fault. Why can't we all just admit our mistakes and move on. Why must we blame everyone but ourselfs. It takes a big person to admit they screwed up but they earn my respect when they do so.


SteveB    Posted 03-03-2004 at 10:37:57       [Reply]  [No Email]
Ron,
I never once raised my voice to the lady. I had an agreement with her husband and she decided to change that after the fact. Also, the way the box is designed, it is imposible to open without noticing the mailing label. She had to have known they weren't her's. I still say, once she opened the box, she relieved the post office of any obligation.


Bob    Posted 03-03-2004 at 10:15:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
Why is either of you paying for the POST OFFICE'S error?


SteveB    Posted 03-03-2004 at 10:19:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
The post office makes mistakes. It happens - they handle a lot of mail. Before I open anything I look to see who it is addressed to and where it came from. If it is not addressed to me I either return it to the post office or deliver it personally if they are local. These people assumed responsibility when they opened it.


Ron/PA    Posted 03-03-2004 at 10:40:47       [Reply]  [No Email]
Wrong, if it's delivered to them, they may "assume that it is theirs!" Better check the postal regs. It'll save you some aggrivation.


KellyGa    Posted 03-03-2004 at 10:03:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
Sounds like a stressful experience. No food or water??? What is wrong with people? Before I get any kind of animal, I want to know all about them first. I would have told them they didn't have the means to take care of them, and ask them since they were mixed up anyway, why not just take them all from them. SOunds like they are gonna end up dead anyway. I had my food and waterer and everything before I got my chicks, and what about them keeping warm? If they were in barrels they aren't going to be very warm. You know all this though, I am preaching to the choir. Just sad to see people get animals and be so uneducated as to how to care for them. :(


Fern(Mi)    Posted 03-03-2004 at 12:12:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hey Mom! How's your baby, chick?

I'm not getting into the rest of this. The only thing that agrivates me is none of my nieghbos have ever paid my bills when those same bills were dolivered to them. Some postal patrans just don't take the postal system seriously.


SteveB    Posted 03-03-2004 at 10:15:07       [Reply]  [No Email]
I would have expected death losses of at least 30% and probably closer to 60%. They did have heat lamps above them but with mail order chicks it is extremely important that they are each given a drink of water as soon as they are taken out of the box as they have been on the road for 2 days. If I had offered to take the chicks they would not have paid me and the damage was already done. Those chicks cost me $90 and I wasn't going to stand those kind of death losses because of their stupidity.


Pitch    Posted 03-03-2004 at 11:11:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
I have never delivered chicks without them being insured. In fact we prefer not to deliver them at all and ask the customer to pick them uop at the office. What you need to do is to call her husband and get the label and the insured sticker from the package. (If they were sent express the insurance is included n the shipping price.) In this case the chicken company is the payee and therefore the injured party. The PO will have a copy of the "3849" that the customer signed at delivery. The label and the 3849 will provide absolute proof of misdelivey and the PO will cover the cost and shipping up to the amount of damage.


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