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Union Dues
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KellyGa    Posted 03-04-2004 at 16:28:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
Ian works at the MeadWestvaco (a recemt merger)plant in Atlanta. He is a technician, mechanic, whatever you want to call it. Thats where they make all your beer and coke, pepsi cartons. Next time you have a 12 pack, look at the bottom, it says Mead, :).

ANYWAY, he has had to put the union to work for him. There is a new boss that has been in from Chicago since oh, about October. Ian is a very hard worker, never late, never absent, always there when asked. The boss switched him to first night shift January first. Thats M,T, off, W,Th, work, F,S,S, off. Then M,T, work, W,Th, off, F,S,S, work. These are twelve hour shifts. SUpposedly he is needed to train a guy, who incidently trained him (go figure). He agreed, and a couple of weeks ago, his boss decided he needs to be on second shift, which just reverses the nights, so in order to get on that schedule, he had to work two weekends in a row. So..he did that without question.

The other morning, Ian goes in, and somebody tells him the boss wants to see him, so he went in, not thinking much about it. He soon found out he should have had a shop steward with him.

His boss asked him why he hadn't been coming in EVERY Sunday, which is start up day/night. He explained that when they had discussed this at the beginning of the year that he would NOT be coming in every Sunday, that the contract specifically states employees cannot and will not be made to work that many consecutive days and hours in a row. His boss asked him if he had been getting points for not being there on those Sundays. Ian says no, because thats against the contract. His boss asked him if he was willing to lose his job over it? He said no, because I know thats what the contract says, and his boss says it doesn't say that. He told him thats the only day he gets to go see his dad, and he hasn't been doing that, because he has been so tired. His boss tells him he doesn't believe that is why he won't come in. Ian said, well, you can believe whatever you want to.

Ian goes directly to Lorraine, who is head of the union there at the plant, and tells her the story, and requests a meeting with her, his boss, and himself, and a shopsteward. He got it today, and his boss was proven wrong.

So NOW...guess what, his boss is changing his schedule again...third time in two months, to 11 pm-7am, Monday through Friday.

Oh, one more note, Ian was already going in one extra day a week before this Sunday thing came up.

He is a union member, thank goodness, and they are sticking up for him. I just know this guy is gonna ride him ragged though. He is supposed to go back to Chicago in July, I asked Ian what the rumor was about the guyin Chicago, he says they were glad to see him go, lol.


Burrhead    Posted 03-05-2004 at 12:11:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
Tell Ian to hang in there.

I noticed one feller on here telling you the union is useless.

He also whines about folks getting above minimum wages or welfare,or medicaide, or WIC and/or any other *give away gubermint program*, regardless of the circumstances of the person.

On the other hand tho, ifn youll notice he's drawing a check from his employers and using the company equipment to post the whines while he's on their clock. He orta be out doing some kind of company bizness at least a few minits ever day or 2.

According to him lying and stealing from a public job is normal and customary so go for it. On the other hand if a person is blind, crippled, or crazy they need to be shot so he don't have to pay taxes in support.

What runs up the cost of doing bizness in America?? Non producing duds like him on the payroll no matter if it's a union job or slave labor.

Oh yeah----Semper Fi



Deadcarp    Posted 03-04-2004 at 17:36:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
glad his union is doing him some good. Last union job i took was thru the UBofCandJofA (carpenters union) in Hollywood in the early 60s. Since i was a strapping lad, those clowns (all dead now i suppose) wanted to "train me for enforcement" (as in lounge around with bathing beauties and break arms/legs on command.) Well thanks anyway, i walked away, carried that taste in my mouth and never forgot. :)


john    Posted 03-04-2004 at 16:32:28       [Reply]  [Send Email]
yep,Thank God for Unions..even though I am retired now,I am still a member of the Steel Workers up north, (AFLCIO)..have seen alot of trouble here in FLorida though where UNION is a 4 letter word...my wife was a nurse and has been blackballed in florida from working as a nurse,because she started the first health care union here in SW FLorida...I stick with UNIONS!


ret    Posted 03-04-2004 at 18:41:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
retired member of IAM, spent many years in the union, most in CA. Without a union, you are dead meat in a dispute with management. I don't like the endorsements either, but hate to think where I would be today financily without it. The good far outweighs the bad
REt


Dave Smith    Posted 03-04-2004 at 16:57:49       [Reply]  [Send Email]
A union brother. Are you a member of Soar? Steel Workers Of America Retired.
I am not at all happy the union endorses kerry.
Dave <*)))>< Local 2603


john    Posted 03-04-2004 at 18:35:24       [Reply]  [Send Email]
SOAR..never heard of it..will have to check it out though thanks


KellyGa    Posted 03-04-2004 at 17:07:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
Couldn't tell you about the Soar thing. My husband definitely believes in unions. Got to have them to keep the bullies from running the show. Ian is Local 527 I believe. :)


Short Round    Posted 03-04-2004 at 16:54:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
And you wonder why there are unions......... I have been a member of the IBEW for over 25 years. The union electricans are the best trained in the business. You will serve a five year apprenticeship, go to school one full day every other week for a total of 1000 hours of school and you will get paid for these school hours. Plus in our local you will have to take over 100 hours of night classes on your own time. Then you still will have to pass the final test before you can get you jym. card.


Les    Posted 03-04-2004 at 18:25:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
I gave the IBEW my dues for 8 years. All they ever did was protect the idiots that should have been fired and take my money to tell me to vote for candidates I would never dream of voting for. Totally useless.


Short Round    Posted 03-05-2004 at 06:02:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
Les, where do you think the 40 hr. week came from or the time and a half for over 8 hrs a day? Or the health plans and retirement, think employers would offer these things out of the goodness of their heart? If it were not for the unions or the threat of unions we would all be working 80 hrs a week for pennies.


Les    Posted 03-05-2004 at 09:10:57       [Reply]  [No Email]
Maybe you would but I wouldn't. I've never felt quite that helpless but if you want to throw your money away, go ahead.


Donna from Mo    Posted 03-05-2004 at 02:29:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
That's been mine and my husband's experience too. We've both had plant closings more than once, and our unions did nothing at all for us. Neither of us is union now. I know that people in car plants have a strong union that stands up for them though.


Hmmm?    Posted 03-04-2004 at 21:00:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
Are ya sure,ya aint union now.


KellyGa    Posted 03-04-2004 at 17:06:04       [Reply]  [No Email]
Have a friend with IBEW. Works for West Star? I think thats right, can't remember for sure. He works out of Florida most of the time, but his family is here in Newnan. Gets home about every other weekend. Guess you have to go where the work is.


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