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'bout them farm guns - anyone got plans for gun safe or . . .
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ShepFL    Posted 01-21-2002 at 17:52:21       [Reply]  [Send Email]
a recommendation on one to buy. I am planning to build the Mrs. her house way out here in the woods and wanting a safe to store my hunting "tools". Looking for comments for build vs. buy, then hidden from casual view (false wall) or make part of the decor. Need a LARGE ONE !!

Lesley Burgess    Posted 10-07-2007 at 09:10:33       [Reply]  [Send Email]
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Pedro    Posted 03-05-2004 at 21:13:40       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Using 1/2" plate and 4"X4" 1/4" square tube you can make a very secure gun safe. Have plate steel sheared to desired dimensions. The sq. tube will be your door jamb. After welding 3 of the 4 sections tube in a "U" shape it can be filled with concrete if desired. Then the last section can be filled and after it sets,weld in place.
You will need to come up with a heavy duty piano hinge. The door will have at least two recesses made from 5" iron pipe or 5" sq. tube (think of the hole in a golf green). Just large enough to manipulate the locks and with no room for bolt cutters. The recesses need to be at least 6" deep. The locking lugs are welded to the safe inside wall. When the safe is closed the locking lugs will pass through the plate at the bottom of the recesses. The hinge side of the door will have a piece of 1/4" 2X4 angle iron attached so when the door is closed and locked this lug goes behind the door jamb (let 'em beat the hinge off). When attaching the door and locking lugs you will want the door recessed in the frame by at least 3/8" to prevent pry bar attack. By adding angle or tube steel around the inside of the door will make it even stronger.
If you want fire protection a sheet of 3/4" sheetrock and a roll or two of heavy duty foil barrier (high temp RTV is a good adhesive). I suggest that one measurement of the safe be at least 32" or a little less with door and jamb assy. not installed. Once the main box is in the house and the 4" door jamb is welded in place it can not be removed through a standard 36" door.
When cutting the drywall you can make it self supporting with RTV adhesive to keep it in place. Top piece goes in first. Back and bottom goes in next. The the sides will hold the others in place. Put a couple of layers of heavy duty foil on the outer side of the sheetrock before installing.
Finishe the inside to suit your needs.


Gut and remove the inside racks and mechanism of a coke machine. Place in the family room alongside the pool table and make sure the light still works. Semi secure fire proof and hidden.


Install a dummy heat and air vent between floor joist. Sheet the two joist with duct metal and it will look like a cold air return from the basement.

Sam from Jawja    Posted 12-30-2002 at 07:36:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
What I did, when I built my house, was build a shelf unit in the basement for storage of what ever. The bottom shelf has a hinge on the back side, and a hidden compartment under the shelf for gun storage. I keep big bulky, but not to heavy items on the shelf and when I want a gun, just remove the 3 or 4 big boxes, and lift her up and there they are. Even lined it with some pretty fabric.

So rust problems, worse than the ones upstairs in the glass fronted gun cabinet.

Good luck.

Dick Hayhurst    Posted 06-21-2002 at 20:42:54       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I reckon concealment is better than security,have a safe for sure but don't put anything in it! It'll keep the intruder occupied for the duration of his stay.For long-term storage bury them in vacuum pouches.

Mark in Ely, NV    Posted 04-01-2002 at 14:53:39       [Reply]  [Send Email]
If you do end up buying one give these people a try;
Sturdy Safe of of CA.
I bought a huge safe with 8 gauge steel, 850 pounds dry, 23 gun interior, side shelves and shelves in the door. S&G lock also.
I paid $950.00 to my door.
Compared with many of the "big" name safe makers I would say that I got a very good deal. This safe is huge and very wide.
Just my two cents worth.
Mark in Ely, NV

JT    Posted 01-28-2002 at 09:44:16       [Reply]  [No Email]

Building a new house this year also and I have the same concerns. I am considering a room in the basement with concrete reinforced walls and a safe door. The last time I checked a good door would cost about the same as a 50 gun safe that I am currently using. The best safes for the money I have found are Liberty Safes and a very accomodating dealer in Paris KY.

My safe is now located in my den in the basement with no moisture problem. I have a Goldenrod in the safe which heats the air and burns off moisture (a light bulb may also work). Also keep a can of desicant in the safe. I do have some concerns about moisture in a basement but that can be controlled depending on your location.

I don't worry about the guns in my safe. Unless the thieves are professionals with burning bars, etc., they will never get to your guns kept in a good safe. They are in too much of a hurry. They can beat heck out of the safe but will not get it opened. Make sure you get one heavy enough that they cannot carry it out.

It is hard to hide guns where a thief cannot find them. They tend to be even more devious than you. My good guns are in the safe and a few inexpensive ones are in a glass door gun cabinet. They can have those!!! and hopefully be satisfied and not tear up my house trying to find other firearms.

Also, on hiding guns. I have a friend that hides guns everywhere. Sometimes from would be thieves, sometimes to keep his wife from finding out he bought another gun. He has hidden a couple of guns so well even he can't find them now (or his wife found them and sold them!) You should see her new tennis bracelet!


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rhudson    Posted 01-23-2002 at 08:49:39       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Had a friend that built one in the corner of his basement with masonery. you have to have a dehumidifier running in there if you use underground storage. saw a coffie table once that the top hinged up. guns stored in a hidden compartment under top. no security, just hidden.
years ago we worked on a walk in safe door that crooks had beaten to pieces with 20 lb hammers to get in. the door was not locked but they assumed it was. it was just used for fire safe documents, no money. the money was hidden in a bag in a nail keg. i would want a combination of strong box design and also have it hidden. i have an old electrical switch gear cabinet with an electric warming dehumidifier in it. doesn't look like a gun cabinet, looks like something that would get you hurt if you opened it.

M.R.    Posted 01-21-2002 at 22:51:22       [Reply]  [No Email]
If you build the safe using part of the foundation of the house and store certain documents in it, you may be able to write it off your taxes. Check with your accountant.

Be sure to build it big enough to store the rest of your "tools" in it as well.

My dad and brother each have a safe built by Graffunder. They are top of the line. Here's the link to their website:

M.R.    Posted 01-21-2002 at 22:51:22       [Reply]  [No Email]

Albert Kruger    Posted 06-07-2005 at 21:41:22       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Ditto on the quality of the gruffunder safe. I bought my first one
upon the reccommendation of a trusted friend and have since
bought a larger one. Ulrich Graffunder is one incredible craftsman
and sensetive to customer satisfaction

Ludwig    Posted 01-22-2002 at 06:30:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
We always talked about getting a septic tank chamber cast with a door in it, then dig and have it set off the side of the cellar at my folks house. Thought that'd be good and fire proof, and not too difficult to waterproof.
As for security, we now use the, you can find the guns, you can find the ammo, but if you can match 'em up you're lucky, method. Sometimes its a challenge to shoot a squirrel.
"Ok, found some .22 ammo, grab the gun. Nope, thats a .357 lever gun. Dang I thought sure that was a .22, its a 32-20. How about this? Nope, that one only shoots shorts, these are long rifle..."
You can imagine the hilarity..

Ludwig    Posted 01-22-2002 at 06:30:29       [Reply]  [No Email]

PCC-AL    Posted 01-21-2002 at 19:04:48       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hi again Shep,
By the way, thanks again for the auction post.
Re farm guns, you know as well as I that no safe or hidden compartment can stop theives if they have enough time. Some places use a chain through the trigger guards or remove bolts, etc to render the gun useless. This method also makes the gun useless to you. I don't have a good answer to your question. I refinished a beautiful longleaf pine cupboard that I use. For safekeeping, I depend on the dogs and staying alert with a sidearm always at hand. Good luck.

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