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Strange / California
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~Lenore    Posted 03-10-2004 at 11:06:32       [Reply]  [No Email]
Are the Democratic politicians concerned that they are losing voters? Is that why they are trying to do this?


"California Lawmakers Want Voting Age Lowered to 14
Mon Mar 8, 9:58 PM ET

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Four Democratic California lawmakers on Monday proposed giving teenagers as young as 14 the right to vote in a move that would make the often trailblazing state the first in the nation to do so.

Under the proposal, youths under the current legal voting age of 18 would be able to cast ballots in state and local elections only, although their vote would not have full weight that an adult vote would.

For example, a vote cast by a 14 or 15-year-old would be counted as a quarter of a vote, and a vote by a 16 or 17-year-old would be counted as half a vote.

Lawmakers say giving teenagers partial votes would get them interested in the election process and would not violate the U.S. Constitution as long as it only applied to state ballots.

"We believe it's time to open up the franchise to young Californians at the age of 14, let them register and vote and be seriously included in the process," said Democratic State Senator John Vasconcellos.

Sue North, chief of staff for Vasconcellos, said that if the proposal passes, it would be the first time any state would have amended its constitution to allow high school students to vote.




michigan native    Posted 03-10-2004 at 16:28:52       [Reply]  [No Email]
Dems, couldn't count whole votes right last time. What makes them think they can count quarter and half votes now?


Cosmo    Posted 03-10-2004 at 15:52:52       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yep, that's pretty strange. How about this. Before you vote you must be able to name the candidates, and not just the ones you were told to vote for, and write or say a sentence about what they stand for IN ENGLISH. Also this "no taxation without representation" should be instead "no representation without taxation." So, if you don't pay taxes you don't vote at all. Let the flogging begin.


Melanie    Posted 03-10-2004 at 16:05:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
Sounds good to me!!!


Burrhead    Posted 03-10-2004 at 14:10:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
now now Lenore we all know that voting age don't matter. There's been many good dead voters that vote 2 or 3 times apiece in national elections.

It seems the really important thing in todays national election is how many Supreme Court Justice the candidates party put in office.

When 5 appointed judges have a more powerful vote than the over 180,000 legally registered and voted folks that got their vote nixed, then something is wrong besides the voter's age.

Voting in Uhmurika is a weird animul. Mizoory aint got any 14 to 16 year old voters and did ye notice last election?? them folks voted a dead man in over John Ashcrock.



big fred    Posted 03-10-2004 at 13:01:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
Most of the folks in California are pretty normal, especially if you don't include San Francisco and some of the freakier parts of Los Angeles. The big problem is that Californians somehow think they can solve their problems by sending complete freakin' idiots to Sacramento.


dave 50 8n    Posted 03-10-2004 at 15:38:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
...I think you have to take us Kalifornians on a case by case basis...like for instance, I found some construction glue in my left eyebrow (while in a quite moment at work yesterday). I tried to take it out, then realized that if I continued...why, I'd looke like I was an activist or was making a statement, or was new to plucking eyebrows!

so, the glue remains, and I just brush the remaining hair over.

OK...mebee we are strange. :-)


dave 50 8n    Posted 03-10-2004 at 12:00:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
...this is exactly why the Gobernator should implement my request, which I sent him a few weeks ago: "Only let the legislature meet once every other year. That way, they can only cause 1/2 the problems."

I'm awaiting a response from Arnold any day now. Co-worker said she saw him in the gym recently.


Red Dave    Posted 03-10-2004 at 11:59:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
Using "strange" and "California" in the same sentence is redundant ;)


~Lenore    Posted 03-10-2004 at 14:36:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
I agree, RD.
I was sorta using it as a synonym. ;-)
I know their are some "normal" folks in Ca.
It is just the "different" ones get all the air play and backing of the media.
You never hear the normal ones on the news.
I think they should protest and scream "DISCRIMINATION??"


deadcarp    Posted 03-10-2004 at 13:06:59       [Reply]  [No Email]
oh great. california kids already only have 2 speeds - bored and bragging - all they need is one more tiny ego boost and they'll "like totally self-destruct". On second thought ---------- :)


Mke in tn    Posted 03-10-2004 at 11:33:16       [Reply]  [No Email]
Sounds pretty silly to me. Remember it is California. But then again, I see lots of people in their 30's & 40's that shouldn't be allowed to vote. Thet don't have a clue why they vote for someone, or could care less what their position is on major issues.
Mike


Melanie    Posted 03-10-2004 at 12:10:03       [Reply]  [No Email]
OOooh... good point... I know one or two myself. :)


Melanie    Posted 03-10-2004 at 11:28:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well, I remember being in high school and raising he!! about not getting to vote... but now a little bit (ahem!) later, I don't know that I would trust that kid I was to make the right choice. I hate to come off sounding like a conspiracy theorist, but... seems to me that the younger and more hormonal a voter is, the less common sense they'll use and the more easy it will be to sway them using emotional or dirty methods. Is it 'getting them interested in the voting process,' or is it 'getting some easy victims'?


Fern(Mi)    Posted 03-10-2004 at 11:32:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
I'm all for hormons.

And when I was 14yrs, I was just beginning to appreciate them.


Melanie    Posted 03-10-2004 at 12:08:48       [Reply]  [No Email]
LOL!!!! Weren't we all... :)
But as far as I'm concerned, I think kids get too many liberties as it is. My girls will prolly hate me when they grow up because I'm pretty strict about where they can go without me, what they can watch on TV, etc... but it's funny how I get so many compliments on the lines of "It's refreshing to see a truly innocent child her age in these times."
We keep giving kids all these little grown up privileges and overly mature programs, and eventually we'll have to deal with the effects of those hormones as they run the country. :)


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