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Wood Burning Stove In Mobile Home???
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Stephanie    Posted 03-25-2004 at 15:57:35       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hey, I was wondering if anyone on here could answer my question. I was wondering if you could put a brick wall like up and a brick flooring and place the cast iron wood burning stove on that and if that'd work for my mobile home. If anybody can help me and answer my question please e-mail me at wicked_princess_n_ky@yahoo.com thank you...


No Insurance    Posted 03-26-2004 at 06:27:41       [Reply]  [No Email]
In my area (Ohio), the insurance companies WILL NOT insure a mobile home with a wood burning device of any kind unless it is a "mobile home" approved unit that is installed by the manufacturer.

RY


toolman    Posted 03-26-2004 at 09:55:33       [Reply]  [No Email]
RY is right i think thats the way it is most places my wife works in the insurance business and she tells me that if there not mobile home approved and inspected then it,s very hard to find a insurance company willing to insure you.


Hal/WA    Posted 03-26-2004 at 00:37:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
I lived in an 1973 mobile home for many years that was mostly heated with an "Earth Stove" that was made specially for mobile home use. It sat on a raised pad that had a concrete surface and also ductwork to get combustion air from under the mobile home through a hole I had to cut in the floor. The Metalbestos chimney went through the ceiling and roof between 2 roof trusses and attached to the top surface of the stove. The stove had a cowling around the sides and back and had an insulated door. It was supposed to be rated for 1" clearance to combustables, but I didn't have it that close. I put tin behind the stove on the wall with an airspace behind it, probably mostly for my own peace of mind. I also put tin heat shielding around the chimney where it passed through the ceilng to roof area.

I used that stove for a long time and it worked very well. I got it extremely hot a few times when I filled it full of tamarack and forgot to shut down the draft. This did some damage to the stove over the years and I decided to remove the stove before I sold the mobile home (for very little) because I was worried that it might be a liability issue.

When I took the chimney down, I found that the top couple of sections of the insulated stainless steel pipe were in great shape. But the section closest to the stove had lots of holes in the liner and was a problem waiting to happen. Not sending that stove and chimney down the road with the young people I virtually gave the mobile home to was one of the better decisions I have made. If they have a fire in the mobile home, it won't be because of my old, worn out stove.

Fires do happen in mobile homes. And when they occur, it usually ruins the mobile home, or at least causes enough damage so repairs cost more than the mobile home is worth. The fires also often kill the occupants. Insurance on a mobile home with a wood stove is hard to find and is expensive.

I had some neighbors that lived in a mobile home. They were elderly and didn't have much money and could not afford the electric heat. So Bob welded up a box stove for his living room and used 6" heavy steel well casing for his chimney. The chimney ran straight up through the roof and stuck out about 4 or 5 feet. When I saw that pipe sticking out, I asked him what his insurer thought of it. He told me that they had not had any home insurance for years!

Bob told me that he had built a "thimble" out of 4 layers of sheet metal with air spaces to protect the area where his chimney passed through the ceiling and roof. He also had tin behind the stove and heavier metal on the floor. They used that setup for years without problems. I always wondered how they got away with the installation without the permits and inspections--I'm sure it was illegal as heck-- but that is not the type of question a person asks.....

Some mobile homes are very airtight and that was the reason my stove used outside air for combustion. I noticed that Bob always had a window open a little.

My special mobile home approved stove and chimney cost nearly $1000 25 years ago. I installed it myself, but got a permit and had it inspected, to keep it legal and also to try to appease the insurers. I got cancelled by 3 different companies over the years completely because of the wood stove and ended up paying more for insurance on the mobile home than I am now for my new house, which is worth many times as much as the mobile home.

So can a person put a wood stove in a mobile home successfully? Sure you can. But plan on lots of problems with insurance and plan on spending quite a bit of money getting a stove that will pass code. If neither of these things worry you, then go for it! Just be very careful and don't burn your house down..... Good luck!



toolman    Posted 03-25-2004 at 21:46:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
hi , as far as im concerned you can place a wood stove in a mobile home,it has to be a mobilehome approved wood stove, and installed properly, with insulated chimney pipe and all,with what you want to do i would think it would be to heavy for your floor, brick walls brick floor and on top of tha a cast iron stove will be really heavy and i don,t think your floors would withstand the weight,i have lived in mobil homes before and they are well built now a days but i don,t think id chance it, is your a single wide then for sure i wouldn,t , you can buy backer board and glue tiles or whatever on it to make it look like brick or what ever you want nowadays, keep a space of at least a inch between that and your walls.mobile homes burn fast , especially the older one, i have seen them completely engulfed in less than a minute , so be careful and anything you do with a stove in a mobile get it inspected.


Maggie/TX    Posted 03-25-2004 at 19:02:03       [Reply]  [No Email]
Stephanie, if you've got one of the newer type mobile homes that is not made of particle board, AND you do the brick wall behind and underneath it just may work. BUT, make double doggone sure that the vent pipe is INSULATED. Have this done by a professional and inspected by your local fire department before burning in it.

Reason I say this is I went to a call for a house fire not long ago that was caused by the stove pipe just going through the wooden wall with no insulation. The pipe got hot enough to start smoldering and by the time they realized it, it was going pretty good. Ruined about half of the cutest little wood frame house, not to mention all their belongings that got water damaged from putting the fire out. Better be extra safe than sorry.


~Lenore    Posted 03-25-2004 at 20:35:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
Howdy, Maggie!
I was thinking of sending a search party out your way.
You sure have been missing around here.
Good to see you.


Fern(Mi)    Posted 03-25-2004 at 17:19:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
There has been some recent talk on the boards in the last 2/3wks. Check-out archives.
With Clipper on this one. Mobile homes are not the most safe fire resistant housing available. To many glues and resins in their construction. When ignited they go-up like oiled paper.


RayNC    Posted 03-25-2004 at 17:25:11       [Reply]  [Send Email]
"Too many glues and resins in their construction"
Where? how? when? what are you talking about??


Clipper    Posted 03-25-2004 at 16:08:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
I think that if you check with your local Fire Marshal and Insurance Company you will get a resounding NO from both on this idea....Mobile homes are mainly fires waiting to start as is....


RayNC    Posted 03-25-2004 at 17:22:08       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Let's see...my mobile home is made from the same material as a "stick built" house.
We have 2x4 studs on 16" centers covered with sheetrock on the inside and osb sheathing on the outside, vinyl siding on the outside of that and paint and wall paper on the inside. These walls are glued and screwed to a plywood subfloor same as a regular house, (my subfloor is supported with 2x10 joists, is yours?) My ceilings are 2x6 raftered and covered with sheetrock and finished same as a regular house, with 1/2" exterior plywood under the same asphalt shingles as a regular house....so what is it that makes them "fires waiting to start"?


Fern(Mi)    Posted 03-25-2004 at 17:36:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
Your's may be the exception. Otherwise I see them unsafe by inherited history. Until all the old units are gone I question any these housings quuestionable. So many these mobile home bilt with paper thin paneling, osb board, masonites, chip boards and others all materials containing resins and glues, the excetion is rare. I still maintain my oppinoin. The buyer of these dwellings beware.

My dwelling a 1939 dwelling: 1"sheetrock on walls and ceilings. Exterior sided in lung hazardus fire resistant asbestoes siding should I decide to remove it. All sheating 3/4" lumber or better. Framing solid 2x materials. And no spruce in this building.

We're happy here. Suits us.


What!!!!    Posted 03-25-2004 at 17:43:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
No 2x10 floor joists?? Shame on you!!! LMAO!!


Clipper:who does have 2x10 floor joists and then some! :^)


Clipper    Posted 03-25-2004 at 17:25:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
North Carolina? That explains a lot.


RayNC    Posted 03-25-2004 at 17:27:06       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Care to explain THAT comment?


Clipper    Posted 03-25-2004 at 17:27:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
Nope.


RayNC    Posted 03-25-2004 at 17:29:11       [Reply]  [Send Email]
That figures......


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