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buck    Posted 03-31-2004 at 12:59:27       [Reply]  [No Email]

about the cost of gas and the reasons for the increase in prices. I do remember all the hopla back in the 70's and how they swore that we would be out of oil in 20 years if we continued at that rate. I even used my gas guzzlin truck as little as possible and got a small fuel efficient car to comute in. Well as I remember the added car cost more that the added gas for the truck so wasn't long and the car went and I was back to my truck. I still drive a pickup and Mrs B drives a large sedan. Bottom line is that I have a hard time understanding why the type of vehicle we drive has anything to do with the price of gas. I think the vehicles we drive for our personal use is each persons choice as is the cost of driving that vehicle. To blame those who drive gas guzzlers for the higher price of gas is like blaming those that eat for the higher price of food. Anyway I still get a little laugh when I see so old fat bald headed man running around in a little bitty red sports car. Drive what you like,burn all the gas you want and enjoy


Ludwig - yeahbut    Posted 03-31-2004 at 16:42:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
Look its simple, supply and demand.
Theres only so much oil in the ground. There ain't any more now than there was 20 years ago but we're better at getting at it. What'll happen is we'll continue to get better at getting at it but it'll cost more. Still eventually we will run out of oil. Fact of life, get used to it.
So, America uses some crazy number of millions of barrels of oil every day. My Dakoter gets around 19mpg, my Mercedes Diesel gets about 30mpg. I commute about 70 miles a day. So with the truck I need about 3 1/2 gallons of gas and the car needs about 2 1/3 gallons of diesel every day. To make it simple lets say the car needs a gallon of fuel less every day. In a week thats 5 gallons.
Okay, theres something like 600,000,000 people in the US. Lets assume only oh, 25,000,000 commute the average that I do. So in one week raising the average mpg 10mpg would result in a savings of 125,000,000 gallons of fuel.
Okay, well thats a 50% improvement so lets be a little more conservative, drop a zero and go with only a 5% improvement in mileage.
Thats twelve MILLION gallons of fuel that we don't have to pull out of the Arab states, drag four thousand miles across the ocean, refine, and truck to the gas station. And that only assumes traveling 70 miles a day for 5 days a week for 25 million people.

Yeah, you can drive whatever you want, but it effects everybody else. Saying you don't effect anybody else doesn't make it true. Its a real global world. The Muslim terrorists are after us because we're litterally pumping they're countries dry and Americanizing them with McDonalds and all that other trash along the way...

Ahh, I didn't mean to make this the big dissertation it became. Originally I ment to just say it was supply and demand, we DEMAND oil so the Arabs can DEMAND whatever dang price they want, we'll pay it.


Ludwig - yeahbut    Posted 03-31-2004 at 16:12:42       [Reply]  [No Email]
Look its simple, supply and demand.
Theres only so much oil in the ground. There ain't any more now than there was 20 years ago but we're better at getting at it. What'll happen is we'll continue to get better at getting at it but it'll cost more. Still eventually we will run out of oil. Fact of life, get used to it.
So, America uses some crazy number of millions of barrels of oil every day. My Dakoter gets around 19mpg, my Mercedes Diesel gets about 30mpg. I commute about 70 miles a day. So with the truck I need about 3 1/2 gallons of gas and the car needs about 2 1/3 gallons of diesel every day. To make it simple lets say the car needs a gallon of fuel less every day. In a week thats 5 gallons.
Okay, theres something like 600,000,000 people in the US. Lets assume only oh, 25,000,000 commute the average that I do. So in one week raising the average mpg 10mpg would result in a savings of 125,000,000 gallons of fuel.
Okay, well thats a 50% improvement so lets be a little more conservative, drop a zero and go with only a 5% improvement in mileage.
Thats twelve MILLION gallons of fuel that we don't have to pull out of the Arab states, drag four thousand miles across the ocean, refine, and truck to the gas station. And that only assumes traveling 70 miles a day for 5 days a week for 25 million people.

Yeah, you can drive whatever you want, but it effects everybody else. Saying you don't effect anybody else doesn't make it true. Its a real global world. The Muslim terrorists are after us because we're litterally pumping they're countries dry and Americanizing them with McDonalds and all that other trash along the way...

Ahh, I didn't mean to make this the big dissertation it became. Originally I ment to just say it was supply and demand, we DEMAND oil so the Arabs can DEMAND whatever dang price they want, we'll pay it.


Yer prolly...    Posted 03-31-2004 at 16:17:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
right on that dissertation....soon's I get some hep wit the Saloon I'm gonna start drilling in the back yard...

Clipper: the Oilman to be....mebbe


jfky    Posted 03-31-2004 at 13:28:48       [Reply]  [No Email]
freedom of choice. it is interesting to note that most of the people complaining about the price of gas are the ones driving the overpriced gas guzzlers. If you can't afford the gas don't buy the vehicle. 15000 miles per average at 15 mpg is 1000 gallons per year a .25 price increase is 250 dollars per year- compared to their average 5 dollar a week car wash about equal.


SusieQ    Posted 03-31-2004 at 15:41:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
I for one own a small car, fuel efficient, with great gas mileage, it suits my needs, I lived in Europe, where gasoline is way higher than we'll see it here in USA. Believe me, many drive very small cars over there.


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