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A few reasons why i'd like to see
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steve19438    Posted 04-04-2004 at 05:48:47       [Reply]  [Send Email]
gasoline reach $5.00 a gallon:
a. it would get rid of alot of frivolous driving
b. it would get rid of alot of the gas guzzlers on the road today
c. it would reduce this countries dependency on foriegn oil
d. it would encourage people to car pool
e. it would (hopefully) stop/slow the migration of "city folk" from the city to the country (my favorite)
f. it would encourage people to work closer to their homes
of course the agricultural people (farmers) would qualify for price breaks.


Red Dave    Posted 04-04-2004 at 07:40:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
That's a ridiculous notion, but then, you knew that when you posted it.


SusieQ    Posted 04-04-2004 at 08:30:01       [Reply]  [No Email]
Check out the prices of petrol in UK.......then ask, is $5.00 a gal......affordable? Some already pay these prices, take long looks at what products out there, that are made from oil, when it runs out, then ask yourself, did I really need this item ?


Red Dave    Posted 04-04-2004 at 13:10:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
Gas prices are higher in the UK because of taxes, not because of supply & demand.
If you are worried about running out of oil, write your congressman & senators and tell them to vote in favor of opening the Alaskan reserves.


And that is...    Posted 04-04-2004 at 17:02:37       [Reply]  [No Email]
Exactly what they are...'Reserves', but get a 'politician' or government entity to admit it...

If the doo-doo actually hit the fan, see how long it takes to have the drilling rigs (that are already staged there by the way) assembled and producing...

Salmoneye, Who Likes A Person That Actually Pays Attention And Reads...


~Lenore    Posted 04-04-2004 at 10:11:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
Comparing The UK to us is like comparing a house cat to a lion. Distances are totally differant and cannot be compared.

The total area of the entire United Kingdom including ireland is 94,226 sq miles.
Compare that to 261,914 sq miles just in Texas.
The UK is just slighly larger than the state of Utah but not quite as big as the state of Oregon.

Having owned a service business in the state of Texas, I know how the price of gasoline can break a small independant owned business. I may have had only 3 employees but if my business failed they were unemployed!


SusieQ    Posted 04-04-2004 at 13:24:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
At times one has to stop.....look around, and do compare just how others are making it, Europe has more people.........they have overflowed to the Americas since forever. We have to be aware of all things going on around us, read up on great depression, everything went like dominos before war was to begin..........they say history repeats itself, over and over and over. Thought provoking to be sure.


Dave Munson    Posted 04-04-2004 at 07:21:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
$5 gas today would create a depression.

The gas price comes from the price of oil & the refineries cost as well as taxes and mark-up at the pump.

As goes goes, so does fuel oil for heating out east, oil, diesel, aircraft fuel, etc, etc.


kraigWY- - - - -Lets See    Posted 04-04-2004 at 07:08:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
What would $5.00 gal. do for the economy. Are trucking companies gonna eat the extra cost. Nope we are. Not much that don't get moved by truck. Or cab drivers, or pizza delevries. Driving is a necessary anymore. I have to haul water from town, 10 miles away. I haul my feed and hay from Belle Fouche, that's just short of 100 miles each way. I live 10 miles from town but if I want a McDonalds hamburger or a tool from Sears I have to go to Rapid City or Gillette, 70 miles each way. I maintain the road I live on because the county won't. Wyoming supplies coat to most of the country. It takes fuel to produce coal and delivery it to eastern power plants. Heating and electricty is gonna go ski high. Personaly gas would have to go way above $5 a gal to equal what I paid when I got out of the army in 69, price per gal vs. hourly wage. I won't suffer that much but there are millions of low income people out there that are gonna get hurt real bad. You want to see the countries economy go in the tolet, then raise the price of gas to $5 gal. Actually if you figure it out it won't have to go near that high to hurt a lot of people. Who would benifit, the government? That extra gas tax is gonna get eatin up real quick in welfare payments.


Ret    Posted 04-04-2004 at 07:05:32       [Reply]  [No Email]
was going to write a long reply, but the more I thought about it, the more I decided it would be a waste of time to try to reason with a mind such as yours and your way of thinking. One comment though, seems like you feel that the country life is just for you, so others keep out for your desires. What a wonderful set of values to pass on to your heirs.
REt


Salmoneye    Posted 04-04-2004 at 08:54:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
I had the same mindset...Was all set to say something on this 'subject'...

I will not answer Trolls anymore...

You have a good'un though REt...



Stormie    Posted 04-04-2004 at 06:37:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
I have to disagree....Why do people need to work closer to home? As long as I am paying taxes, making a living and not sucking off the Government I should be able to work wherever I choose. I would rather see people drive a little extra to make a better living than have them make just enough to get by.

Why can't I drive where ever I want when ever I want? I pay taxes so I can use those roads. My husband, daughter and I like to go for Sunday drives. We take all the backroads we can (which is all we really have here anyway) We have seen and done so many neat things. Our daughter can't wait till the next Sunday drive. I don't care if it is "frivolous driving" it is those simple things in life that bring this family closer together. Oh yeah, and now that my husband has a great job 68 miles away we can actually afford to go somewhere. Yesterday we went 400 miles, had a wonderful primerib dinner, and bought some junk at a gift shop. Today my husband left at 4:30am to go 80 miles to catch a steelhead. More "frivolous driving" that makes life that much more worth living.


T16    Posted 04-04-2004 at 06:23:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
WRONG!

obvisouly you dont live 400 miles from the rest of your family, that you like to visit a couple times a yr.
you apparently dont like NASCAR or any other motor sport, tourism, vacations, or anyother travel related experiences.



400 Miles??    Posted 04-04-2004 at 07:01:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
Wow, sounds like that's your problem! Ok, it will cost you for example: $500 instead of $200, yes that is alot to most people, but just how important is your family to ya? Or you can get on a horse a spend the next month getting there..which is it? The horse or the $500?
And as far as motor sports...."I'm sorry Dale Jr., but you're going to have to pay for the fuel in your car this year out of the millions upon millions of dollars that are handed to you, sorry Dale, I feel for ya."
This issue can be twisted around until the end of time.
I say get out the horse and buggies, then we'll see just how expensive gasoline really is.

RY


Amen...Fern(Mi)    Posted 04-04-2004 at 06:23:21       [Reply]  [No Email]
Take some of that extra gas money (TAX) an lierally use it for alternate transportation.
I look at Eouropean and Japanes rail systems. They move a lot of folks. There's areas here that would work.
Glad somebvody said somethin.
I've been chicken enough guilty.


buck    Posted 04-04-2004 at 06:58:05       [Reply]  [No Email]

A lot of people think that way. think if you will check into it that you will find that most other transportation methods like rail, metro, bike trails,HOV lanes and the like are paid for by your pesent gas taxes. Way this works out is that people who use a lot of gas to commute pay for the people to ride on the alternative methods sytems. Guess I could say that I am glad to help the DC folks have more disposable income. Not knocking it-that is just the way it is.


Sounds all good....    Posted 04-04-2004 at 06:46:01       [Reply]  [No Email]
....but all of the "right-of-ways" for the railroad sold out around here a few years ago. A few people bought them all up, removed the tracks, ties, and gravel.....sold it all off and made a killin'. Now all of the established, nice and flat and fairly straight railroad beds are gone!! Very stupid move on our all knowing governments part. Now if mass transit ever gets rollin'...where they going to run it? Hmmmm? Let me see...?? Ohh! We can force everyone off of their property and spend billions buying and putting it all back where it was a few years ago.
Truth of the matter is...the politicians love gas guzzlers, they want everyone to rely on oil as much as possible, that's where they get all of their $$ handed to them. They don't want mass transit or they wouldn't be tearing out all the railroad beds across the country, etc, etc.
They (goverment) are already starting to posture themselves for another "oil shortage" just like in the 70's, I've read reports that say the world is going to run out by 2010 and all sorts of garbage.....prepping the masses. I bet you'll see a bunch of "Super Duty, HD, Powerstoke, Duramax, Z71 pickups for sale dirt cheap in the near future!!! I guy might be lucky to give one away.
Can't work close to home.....have to drive to India to work!! LOL!

RY


T16    Posted 04-04-2004 at 06:25:36       [Reply]  [No Email]
and what about where that rail dont work? what are them folks supposed ta do??

and what makes anybody thing that ag folks would get any kind of price break?


Fern(Mi)    Posted 04-04-2004 at 06:45:38       [Reply]  [No Email]
My house hold goes shoping once a month!
We've got nieghbors who shop everyday. They could do that in the city. Theres one almost next door drives 5miles round trip for every meal, every meal, every one. She wasting our futures oil. My grand-kids chance to use oil.
Quit chopping up the rural farm community into tiny untillable little blocks even zoned against animals.
All these houses are getting in my way to drop an eight bottom low in the ground an go more than an eigth of a mile without an ubstruction.
Some tax on gasoline might just have these gas guzzling people drive back to town. Let us food producers do a better job of farming without traffic jams and uncurtious behavior.
I got along without all these country wanta baes for years. I can do it again.
It'd be nice to be able to produce crops without kids speeding and cutting circcles with their hot rods on a freshly planted alfafa field. It would be nice to have year when all my rolled hay had ben left alone by kids running on the bale tops poking holes in them The water getting in and spoiling our feed. Yes our feed That feed I put up to feed my animals the feed that got spoiled an unreplaced by smart kids who think us farmers are a hard lot to get along with.
Yeah let the city wishers go back to town.
I try to be a good nieghbor to the new ones moving in. They buy an acre and think everything they see beyond it is free to run over. I've put up, repaired my fences to keep my stock in and the nieghbors out. the kids cut it. its a convienet daycamp site. I'm privledged to find my cattle out and bring them back homr.
Out here it is rare the really good caring good nieghbor but I try.
Go Home city boy. Let me farm in peace.
and if this ain't enough theres more and it just never seams to get better.
I make my millage count.
FERNAN


Mugway    Posted 04-04-2004 at 07:38:01       [Reply]  [No Email]
Gee Fern you seem bitter,but I'm onthe other end of the stick.Neighbor who has lived and farmed acrose the road all his life has no respect for me, he lets his dogs run loose and people see stuff in my shed they ask him if he wants to sell it,he dont tell them its not his he just says sure, kids in the area that the parents farm have stolen from me.Then there are some kids whose parents work in the city and they come and help me with my orchard.As far as gas,I need it to make my living as a drywaller I need a gas guzzler truck,unless you can tell me how to haul 20 sheets of 4x12x1/2 on a bike.I was born in the country,raised in the city and decided 10 years ago to move back to the country,thats where I'll stay and no lifer in the area will make me move.So what I'm saying is city or country you have jerks,and you cant get away from them


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