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PC school rule dumb stuff
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Michael M    Posted 04-05-2004 at 18:22:48       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well, it has finally happened. We now have a genuine dangerous criminal in our family, but fortunately for us, the elementary school principal was able to disarm her.
My stepdaughter, in her hurry to get to the bus this moning, forgot to take the Opinel lock blade pocket knife that I gave her out of her coat pocket, from her weekend doing stuff around the place. She took it to school, and upon realizing that she had made a mistake, took it from her coat pocket, and tried to put it in her jeans where it would be less likely to be an issue. It fell out during PE, and one of her classmates told someone, and the principal had to come and take it away from her. Now, either her mother or I has to go to the school to get it back.
I plan on doing so tomorrow. Got to go to town anyway. I figure I should probably take my gun off before I go in to claim this lethal weapon.
See, she lives here in the woods. She has real chores that came with her horse. She uses the knife to cut things, like the twine around a bale of hay. Should the horse manage to get itself tangled in a rope or something, she can cut it free.
I think the thing that I find disturbing about this, is that one of her classmates has been so programmed to tattle on his or her peers that they had to tell a teacher about this pocket knife.
Man, I remember when the guys in my school all ahd a pocket knife. It was a resposibility given to us to test us. Most of us passed. No one ever used one on anyone, that I know of. Now, let a tool fall from your pocket in front of your 'friends', and wham!
Busted.
Ah well, should be interesting tomorrow....


john d - dumb?    Posted 04-06-2004 at 07:35:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
Your daughter made an honest mistake. Having a parent pick up what isn't allowed at school is (in the total scheme of things) a pretty mild inconvenience.

"Back when I was in school..." and all the other statements that come to mind simply don't apply today. I work in a school, and while your daughter is almost certainly no risk to have the knife, you might not want her in class or on the bus with some other kids who had one.

Schools today are held responsible to maintain a safe environment. If the principal had done nothing but tell her to take it home and leave it there, he/she would likely be in violation of the school board's rules, and possibly state/local laws.

Seems silly to make a big deal out of something she carries all the time, but carrying it a school (or home on the bus) is simply something they can't let her do.


screaminghollow    Posted 04-06-2004 at 06:49:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
Back in the sixties, we carried our baseballs, gloves and bats to school and pen knives in our pockets. Our local school doesn't even allow kids to bring baseballs, (they are considered weapons) The schools have gotten so weird that a cough drop is considered an illegal drug, and kids caught with them are suspended. A kid in York PA was suspended for having a fingernail clipper with a nail file attached. One neighboring school requires that back packs be "see through" so kids can't sneak prohibited items into the school. School officials forget, that every day, they entrust the kids with sharpened pencils, forks and scissors. far more dangerous weapons than most pen knives and nail files. Our society is becoming so paraniod about security that we are fast giving up the right to protect ourselves from threats. We will be totally dependant on the government, which trusts no one to protect themselves or be responsible for themselves.


SusieQ    Posted 04-06-2004 at 02:35:38       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well growing up way back when in the country, boys always wore a pocket knife in a holder on their belts, this was way before 9/11 and all the bull****~

So.......schools have rules now, why because of all the shootings that have occurred. Columbine, school the worst yet.....guns, how does parents not know their kids have guns? It happened, and quite frankly, these days, kids have gotten away with any and everything, as spanking, a good whooping is now a NO NO.....wish they had known my mom and dad, and followed their rules.


Huh?    Posted 04-06-2004 at 03:41:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
"So.......schools have rules now, why because of all the shootings that have occurred."

You mean before 'Columbine' there were no rules?

I'm pretty sure that there was a rule against shooting people (in or out of school) before that...

Salmoneye, Who Is Sick Of PC Doo-Doo


DD    Posted 04-06-2004 at 02:31:36       [Reply]  [No Email]
My comment is about the school system here: Zero Tolerance. I know that there are good parents all over this world but there are also some sorry ones who have no idea about teaching their children to value life. Those rules are meant to protect ALL our children. Yep, even the ones who know better and wouldn't try to hurt someone. I reckon the folks in the airline industry didn't think they had to worry about a simple box cutter either until AFTER 9-11 either. I am NOT trying to start any kind of argument here. Just giving my own opinion on this. I drive a school bus and it seems to me the folks who'll drive around them when I'm loading a wheelchair student are also the ones who'll scream the loudest when it's their able bodied child boarding and someone does the same to them. Rules are meant to protect our children. And that means we ALL have to follow them. Even when it's not convenient. Have a good day : )


Dug    Posted 04-05-2004 at 21:17:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
Alright, all you parents that let your little ones carry dangerous weapons on or off the farm need to be round up and horse whipped. You should be PC enough to know that a knife (or gun) is inherently evil. They are made to kill and tend to take on a life of their own. Why just a few minutes ago my Schrade jumped outa my pocket, flipped open and began jabbing at my throat. Luckily, I am an agile man and managed to wrestle the knife to the floor before blood was drawn. Shame on all that think knives and guns are just a simple tool.

Dug


My SUV...    Posted 04-06-2004 at 03:34:33       [Reply]  [No Email]
Tried to run me over yesterday, and it doesn't even have an engine in it at the moment...

Salmoneye,



bob ny    Posted 04-05-2004 at 19:50:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
i'm gonna catch he-- on this one i know but rules are rules the time to question them is when your first notified of them the child knew the rules because she took it from one place and concealed in another, she could have notified her instructor when she first found it,if your daughter was inlured by someone wjth a knife you would be sceaming to the school for allowing a weapon in school, rules are for everyone not just for some


ron,ar    Posted 04-05-2004 at 19:19:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
last week one our bus drivers called me about having to take a screwdriver away from a kindergarten student (boy). I called the principal and asked what he knew about it. He said yes, he knew about it, he was trying to sort it out himself though. It seems the boy had brought the screwdriver to defend himself from a 1st grader who had told him he was going to bring a gun and shoot him. I've heard of taking a knife to a gunfight but never a screwdriver.


deadcarp    Posted 04-05-2004 at 19:32:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
i can see it now - "You point a gun at me buddy, and i'll take the thing apart before you can pull the twigger!" lol


ron,ar    Posted 04-05-2004 at 21:10:28       [Reply]  [No Email]
actually, he stabbed the boy in the foot with the screwdriver, the other boy did not bring the gun. The younger one was not taking any chances.


henrich Iowa    Posted 04-05-2004 at 18:45:48       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I figure the next things they will ban will be shoestrings, since you should be able to strangle somebody with those. Belts would also fall into that category. Buttons could be a weapon if used properly with a rubber band. My son is the head custodian of a neighboring town high school and he said he has gotten tired of picking up pennys, he tells me that is what students throw at each other. Occasionally, nickels, dimes and if they are desparate even a quarter. One other trick they like to do is super glue dollar bills to the floor, they even got a guy on the opposing basketball team to stop on the floor and try to pick one up that was glued down. And then my financial lender thinks I throw money around!


Salmoneye    Posted 04-06-2004 at 03:31:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
Even when I was in school in the 70's pennies were everywhere on the floors...

The 'Yard Guard' back then was a small old French Canadian descent woman by the name of Beullah Boujeur...She collected enough change off the floors (people actually stopped throwing it and handed it to her instead) that she would pay for a roadtrip every summer wherever she wanted to go in the country!



Smitty    Posted 04-05-2004 at 18:44:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well so much for Munbly Peg or Strech. LOL
Smitty


Cindi    Posted 04-05-2004 at 18:50:21       [Reply]  [No Email]
I run into this all the time. Jake always has a knife in his pocket. It's a matter of routine to ask him before he gets out of the truck in the morning if he's 'armed'.


jeanette    Posted 04-06-2004 at 03:44:59       [Reply]  [No Email]
this happened to jack in 1st grade him and his buddies brought their farmer pocket knives to show off to each other, now mind you you couldn't cut butter with these things... cops were called to the school... this was even pre-columbine


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