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Kidding !! (goats) need help
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REDNECKMATT    Posted 02-17-2002 at 12:47:49       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I have a doe that seams te be in light labor for almost 36 hours. All seams to be ok but i'm getting worried. My vet died a few months ago and I have not been able to find a replacement. This doe whe she stands on her hind legs to eat hay her water sack bulges out to abought the size of a soaft ball, but when standing on all fours it goes back in (it has not broken). I have never seen this and don't know weather to be concerned or not?? She is eating and drinking fine and is showing all the signs of labor but no kids?? What should I do if anything????

Tom A    Posted 02-19-2002 at 04:47:56       [Reply]  [Send Email]

Your question was definitely beyond my experience. How did it work out--is she ok?


Donna    Posted 02-17-2002 at 17:27:19       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Is she in Labor? ~~ if not is she stressed, If what you see is the water bag and there are not any signs of labor just watch her, if she is stressed, Go wash your hands all the way to your elbo, I mean wash good, your gona have to go inside, See if you can feel 2 feet and a nose, if the kid is in the birthing canal your going to have to help her, by pulling as she pushes, If she is in labor? If you go in there and you don't feel anything in the birth canal, go further back to see if you can feel her cervix open, If it is what do you feel? if it is open a small bit check her every 45 minutes to see if it is enlarging, Remember the size! If it is not I will tell you what to, {If the Cervix is not open then she is not ready} check her often, as far as the water bag, this will push out as she lays down don't break it yet, Good Luck I am going to give you the Goat 911 email of which I am a member, Or email me if you wish at ~

Donna    Posted 02-17-2002 at 21:45:41       [Reply]  [No Email]
In a normal birth the front feet and nose are presented first, in an abnormal birth the kid will try to be born, check to see if one foreleg may be bent back, it could be hooking it inside the womb; tail first, or you could have multiple births and the kids umbilical cords could get mixed up in the womb, As I stated wash up to your elbo very well, you can use mineral oil as a lubricant, you need to go into the birth canal to find out what's wrong, If you get scared just take a deep breath and let your hand be your eyes, It is difficult to image what your're feeling for, Sort out the heads and the legs and if neccessary rearrange them for the proper birthing, In most all cases it is the lead kid that is the problem, fix this problem and the rest shoud be fine, when you have things sorted pull, but do it gently, work with the doe, otherwise she will hemorrhage, Get a vet to check her out, when you insert your hand no matter how clean ,a chance of infection is always possible,
and if the worse happens like a difficult birth, a dead kid that the doe can not expel, You better get some one that knows what to do like an old sheep or goat raising person you know, that knows there stuff! Some one experienced their help will be needed, it is not very likely you will have any problems, but in case you do I want you to know how to handle this. Let me know how it is going.

Donna    Posted 02-17-2002 at 17:37:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
If you go in to her and find the kid it backwards you can turn it, if it is not in the birthing canal, if it is in the birthing canal your
going to have to help her by pulling, and only pull as she pushes, The kids that are backwards don't always make it, get prepared for this one, when the kid comes out, turn it upside down slap the sides along the ribs, {don't beat it} then lay it down and blow in it nose after a few seconds of the upside down, I have saved a few this way.

LazyHorse    Posted 02-17-2002 at 16:52:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
If the labor gets heavy, and she shows signs of starting to be in distress you should get her to a vet as soon as possible. I've seen em labor for days sometimes until they are ready, but if they get in distress it's usually a breech problem, and may need a C-section. You didn't say, but is it the doe's first time kidding?

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