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Preparing a field for planting Red Pine trees.
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Bret Chaput    Posted 04-13-2004 at 07:48:21       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hello, I need some help on the subject of preparing an old Alphafa field for planting trees.

I have a 30 acre field that is located in Western Wisconsin that was planted in Alphalfa approximately 13 years ago. I rented the field last year to a farmer who cut and bailed the grass (and Alphafa that remains). I would like to plant trees on the field during the spring of 2005. What is the best way to prepare this field starting this spring for planting next spring. I would like to avoid chemicals as much as possible.

Suggestions I have been given:
I have been told that the old grass and alphalfa with suck all the nutrients from the trees if I plant trees on the field in it's current state.

Kill the field with Roundup this spring disk and chisel plow it, and then have it planted in corn this summer.

I am open to all ideas and opinions.

Thank you.



RedTail    Posted 04-13-2004 at 10:23:39       [Reply]  [No Email]
Bret, also check with wis DNR. They sell trees real cheap and a forester can give u advice on soil. Bottom line is you are going to have to mow around them for quite some time, so grass or alfalfa may not be bad.


Clipper    Posted 04-13-2004 at 09:06:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
After ya plant all them pine trees and are being swarmed by billions of starving skeeters mebbe you'll wish ya had planted roses....


Ron/PA    Posted 04-13-2004 at 09:04:03       [Reply]  [No Email]
Bret, If it were me, the first thing I'd do is get a soil sample. Find out where you stand and what you need, to accomplish your goal. I kinda wanna think that pines prefer an acidic base soil. Corn will take every bit of nitrogen that your soil has to offer, so corn may defeat your purpose. What you really want to do is prepare the soil in the best way possible to give those seedlings a great first year boost.
Check with your extension agent, but I'd probably do a roundup knockdown, plow it and let it stand fallow for this year. Apply what ever nutrients are suggested, and do the same thing next year. Knock down, plow, dress the field then plant your seedlings.
Good luck, and let us know how you decide to go, and how it works.
Forever learning,
Ron


Huh?    Posted 04-13-2004 at 09:02:42       [Reply]  [No Email]
I can not imagine 'preparing' any place to plant pines...They will live just about anywhere and thrive on very acidic soil...

Can I ask why you feel the need to plant pines at all, especially 30 acres of valuable cleared ground?

Salmoneye Who Spends LOTS Of Time Trying To Kill Trees...


Suzy Q    Posted 04-14-2004 at 11:30:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
Salmoneye...
So good to see your name...
Actually what is a RED PINE?

That one is new to me.

btw how did you come to call yourself
''Salmoneye''?


Les    Posted 04-13-2004 at 18:43:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
Ditto, ditto and ditto. Sounds like the ruination of a perfectly good field that some pioneer struggled his arse off to clear and make useful. What a shame.


Did a little research...    Posted 04-14-2004 at 03:17:38       [Reply]  [No Email]
Just on Red Pine 'plantations' JUST in Michigan...

Somewhere shy of 700,000 acres being managed specifically for 'power poles'...90% of those plantations are under the age of 70 years old...

Yeah...Planting another 30 acres that you will not see a dime from for 30+ years makes all kinds of sense to me...

Then you can pay to 'clear' the stumps and lose the topsoil to runoff and start over...


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