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Pig question/ flies
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D.Starr    Posted 04-16-2004 at 08:19:24       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Is there somethin' I can put in or spray in my pig pens to get rid of the flies & other parasites?Thank You!!!

Ron/PA    Posted 04-16-2004 at 09:35:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
Sure there is a whole industry dedicated to pesticides. Head on down to your local feed mill, or feed store. Now I don't really mean the local TSC or other K-mart type farm store, but real honest to goodness farm oriented store. They can match you up with any number of products, and match them to your needs.
As for the old recipes,, I'm a bit leary of them, Hogs won't absorb much of this through their skin, but they will contaminate their feed and water, then consume it. Remember you will eat what they eat. Motor oil will keep them off of your hogs, but they don't breed on your hogs, they breed in the manure. Keep your pen clean, and as dry as you possibly can.
Pesticide sprays last much longer than seconds or minutes or even days. One brand that comes to mind is "Ectiban" this is a residual spray that is applied to painted or metal surfaces and will last weeks. Ectiban is a great residual, as it will not normally be consumed by the hogs.
There are also "Feed through" pesticides, these are added to the feed, at the mill, and pass through the animal and remain active in the manure. Although they are advertised as non-absorbed, in commercial poultry flocks we did see a 2-3% reduction in production. This always led us to believe that there was some consumption, however in these cases, severe fly infestation would cause up to 10% reduction in production.
Go and get the local pro's to help you, the extension service is a service that you already paid for, make use of it.
Good luck and let us know what works for you.

Cindi    Posted 04-16-2004 at 11:34:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
Ron, you're right. I should have prefaced the spray remark by saying ...'depending where you are'. We have tons of rain during fly season, washes anything that might be effective away. The same can be said for days with 90% + humidity. Besides, I hate to use them. I'd rather go the pesticide free route if possible, but that's just me.

Ron/PA    Posted 04-16-2004 at 15:46:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
Oh yeah, that's a big factor, residuals are only effective inside, as they are easily washed off. Aerosols are a joke, as they only work on the adult fly. Feed through larvecides are never a choice for us in either our hogs or steers.
Cleanliness and lime are a major part of our fly controll program.

EngineerJoyce    Posted 04-16-2004 at 08:55:16       [Reply]  [Send Email]
There's sprays and such at the feed store. I guess a big key is what size herd? If it's just a couple for you own eatin', go the old fashioned way. If you got a hog-house full, visit the local extension office and livestock supply store.

But, back around the turn of the century before the dawn of pesticides and large-scale farming, people would pour burnt motor oil on their pigs backs. other application methods: an oiled sack wrapped around a post for scratching; a manufactured pig oiler (these were discussed on one of the forums on YTMag just recently); a fly rub (one of the current methods of pesticide application that can be purchased at the livestock supply store).
Since pigs don't have pores / don't sweat, they won't absorb the oil. The oil conditions the skin and kills external parasites. But the oil can also pollute water.
Weigh your options and good luck. Let us know what works for you.

Cindi    Posted 04-16-2004 at 08:32:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
The best thing you can do is try to remove what it is that's attracting the flies. If your pig is a normal pig he is probably using one spot in his pen to take care of the call of nature. The hard way would be to shovel out the waste. The easy way would be to add sawdust or shovel a little dirt over the waste.

What you feed them has a direct impact on how attractive the site will be to flies. Grease for example and bits of half digested whole corn, remain longer than they should. Clean up their diets as best you can and it will help.

Also, the feed stores sell these plastic bell-shaped fly traps that are great. They attract the flies and trap them inside and can contain a thousand flies before they fill up and need to be replaced. They are four or five dollars but the contents smell horrible, and then you have to figure out what to do with them. Sprays last mere seconds. The best is the preventative maintenence.

fredo.    Posted 04-16-2004 at 10:05:29       [Reply]  [Send Email]
take a big sodie bottle cut it into about 3" from top reverse and stick into the rest of the bottle stapple it together. add a cup of water to bottle and one egg, flies will go in bottle when it smells right. be sure to keep it up wind from you where you want to be, in a day it will be ripe and attract flies i knew this trick, but someone posted a drawing either on this board, or tractor tales board. [ awfull smell]

Hey Fredo!    Posted 04-16-2004 at 11:31:48       [Reply]  [No Email]
A home made fly bell? Cool! I am going to try that! Thanks!


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