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Starting over-
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mud    Posted 04-29-2004 at 05:44:38       [Reply]  [No Email]
seems like one time or another we all get a chance at starting over. could be that you overcame an illness, maybe a divorce, maybe a theft or fire like pink panther. perhaps a loss of a spouse, or parent, or sibling.

some of us here have had to face loss alone for one reason or other.

what do you do after the loss? that is what defines your strength.

who comes to your aid? those are sometimes folks you'd least expect.

i have had several losses in the time i have been reading and posting on this board. never heard a discouraging word here.

some of you probably had similar experience here.

thing is, burdens are easier to carry if you share the load some. an ear to bend will do wonders to the broken heart. something i know. mud

deadcarp    Posted 04-29-2004 at 10:01:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yup, there will be rainy days, mud - that's a given. Some of it can be imagined, the options can be located then a tentative plan of action can be set up (for example what if the house burned down, a plane crashed, the water went out or the whole bunch was in a bad wreck?) but most things that happen SHOULD be pre-planned to some extent cuz chances are, they're quite predictable & WILL happen. (For example i've never had a car or house that doesn't eventually need repair, does that gal use birth-control, odds are someday i'll stand by the grave of everybody older than me)
So i try not to let those predictable things catch me flat-footed. I'm not real proud of this,
but if some clown ever got to one of my kids, i'd probly revert to my critter side and if i was lucky they'd find me eating the SOB. That would be a tough one cuz i reckon all the lids would come off at once.

Short of that, looking back on the things i've been thru, (poverty, divorce, burying my folks, wrecks & earthquakes) in the long run they made me stronger. Same with losing jobs -the next one was always better - even if just a chance to learn new things and gain experience. I don't think there is a short solution to tragedies - but there always is a day coming, later on down the road, where memories fade, where time has taken the edge off, where you appreciate that you're not the only one, where you feel like maybe you can eat again and comb yer hair and start returning to a new "normal". And try to keep your hands busy - then it's not been a total waste. (never hurts to save up for that sunny day either :)

DD    Posted 04-29-2004 at 08:16:20       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I can agree with all that has been said here about having Friends to help you through the rough times in your life. But I can also attest to something else: Sometimes you just need to step back and take a break from it all too. Just be by yourself and get your thoughts in order. I'm Praying this is what Clipper is doing. Just taking a breather for a short time. We Miss Ya Clipper and we ALL Love ya! (((HUGS)))

Alias    Posted 04-29-2004 at 07:35:32       [Reply]  [No Email]
Mud, and everyone, I don't know of a single individual that hasn't experienced some form of grief and loss. There are always things pulling at the heartstrings. Maybe that's the way it's supposed to be, I don't know. But, I know that good friends and family means everything during a time of crisis. Aside from my own personal family, I have received support from many friends over the years. And, one of the reasons I keep coming back here is because I feel honest compassion from all of you. So, May I just say thank you for allowing me to be a part of this family........gfp

Wisereader    Posted 04-29-2004 at 06:28:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
I haven't been on in weeks, except for a couple of quick fly-by's, and it appears I have missed alot around here.

In regard to Clipper, as well as anyone else that goes through difficult times - during these periods we all are apt to turn our backs on our friends and loved ones for a time. Not necessarily right, but certainly part of our nature. What marks true friends and family are the ones that can be patient and content to look at the back of their head while they are turned around, and ready to quietly accept and embrace the loved one when they do come back.

By the way, I have really missed all of you...

bob ny    Posted 04-29-2004 at 06:26:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
last fall our family lost a member and i mentioned it briefly on this forum the response was heart warming . i met and consider him/her a close friend on this board. i never saw this person but through e-mail we have kept in touch
i don't think i would have gotten through the loss as well without this person.the person wishes not to be named and my respect for him/her
is of the highest order. will remain for the rest of my life thanks from my heart bob ny

E. G. HENDRICKSON    Posted 04-29-2004 at 05:56:42       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Well said Mud! We all will suffer loss and setbacks. Its just a part of life. We have
to get up and pick up the peices and move on.

dale anne    Posted 04-29-2004 at 05:51:01       [Reply]  [No Email]
so true mud!.....friends no matter iffin ya see them face to face or just a chat online can help a bunch......talking bout things always helps share the burden in some way

Aprille    Posted 04-29-2004 at 07:12:19       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I have to agree with every1..I have had alot of ruff times and in all every1 has been right there for me..Les being one to step up and always make suggestions re: Where to find jobs..So if I haven't said it before I would like to say it now..thanx and huggs to one and all

Grove r    Posted 04-29-2004 at 08:13:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
Count me in on all of the above....don't ever remember responding directly to any of Clippers posts, but, that don't mean I haven't enjoyed his company....fact is I don't post near as much as I used to...'nother fact is, most here, now, probably don't even know much about me....which can, indeed, be concidered as a good thing....When Clipper first oppened the bar, someone relegated me to be the doorman...well by the time I found out about it, it was a little too late, but did enjoy all the festivitys of said establishment! Have found lately, that Clipper has been a key member of the "fraternity". Surely do hope that his term of self imposed exile will be a very short one, and am one who is looking forward to his speedy return.

Yours truly,


toolman    Posted 04-29-2004 at 09:18:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
like all the rest of you said , things happen , some deal with it one way and others another way, clipper may just need some time for himself, important thing is that he knows we care , i have met some very fine people on here and consider them as good a friends as i have ever met (grover is one of them,) and im sure clipper knows he has friends here and when he,s ready we,ll be here,come back home when your ready clipper.

Grove r    Posted 04-29-2004 at 11:47:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well, thankee Toolman, you are, indeed, a gentlman, a schoolar, and a judge of good spirits, and, I am looking forward with great expectation, to the day when we can shake hands ..... may come sooner than ya think......R.E.L.

toolman    Posted 04-29-2004 at 11:53:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
sure look forward to that day also grover, gonna give ya call here soon had to work last night , tryin to get things caught up some here today and probably will take forever to do that but gotta make an effort, sure do hate gettin laid up , work piles up fast, how you doin , gettin around ok now?

Grove r    Posted 04-29-2004 at 12:02:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yeup, doin' not bad, muscles play out pretty fast though, still keep on goin, take it easy and don't go overdoin' it so soon after bein' laid up.....gonna go see if I can rescue a swather motor for a wood splitter/buzz saw combination that I got hole up in ma mind... sure has lots a room ta hide in there.....have yerself a gooder an watch out fer that Burr fella, I hear he is "hoggin" all the brush down there where he lives......R.E.L.

toolman    Posted 04-29-2004 at 13:06:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
i,ll do that , don,t need to much encouragement to take it easy round here,what ya spose that BURR,s doin with all that brush anyways , don,t think it,s much good fer smokin,hmmm never know them texans ya know, let me know bought the buzz saw,take er easy .later

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