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Well to water cattle ?
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rhudson    Posted 02-28-2002 at 20:00:55       [Reply]  [Send Email]
we've had 5.5 inches of rain in this part of virginia since last july. 5 out of the last seven years have been drastically below average rainfall. sooooo...i'v having to drill a well, install a power pole, electric heat, pump house, watering tank (what have i forgotten?). this is new to me and i want to do it right. i know that you fellows in the west use watering tanks (at least in the movies). any suggestions? oh yeah 125 head of cattle, cow/calf, black angus, this pasture used in late fall/winter. Thanks

Mark Hendershot    Posted 03-01-2002 at 08:20:06       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I would go with a Pitless Adapter below the Frost Line and use a Sumergable pump. That way you don't realy need a pump house just a place for the electrical stuff. Go with sch. 40 PVC and make sure no rocks are against the pipe, and make it deep below the worst freeze in your area. To save on heating your tank you can enclose it with something to inslulate the sides with. Put down a concrete slab for the tank you can use a foam pad to cover part of the water to save heat during the winter too. Use freeze proof spickets and make a good drain pit for the drain down when you shut it off. Last of all don't forget the power put a 6" PVC pipe in with a cap to protect the plug and you can cut just a slot big enought for the cord to fit in just at the bottom of the cap,that will keep the rodents out and give you a protected place to plug in the stock tank heater. If you have to go a long ways with you ditch put a extra pipe in it dose not cost that much compared to re/digging during the winter for a busted pipe. Mark H.

rcoaltraain    Posted 03-01-2002 at 07:19:23       [Reply]  [Send Email]
We are in sever drought here also I am begining to wonder about well water table. The best waterer I have seen hooked to a water line is a polotron has a senser that shoots a tiny stream of water below 32 degrees in an insulated tank. Will work good also to keep line from frezen. Have you looked into or considered a wind mill if your pastures are long way from water source. Another water sourse we are using is purchasing a tank and hauling water on truck or trailer. Coaltrain

kraig WY    Posted 03-01-2002 at 06:58:02       [Reply]  [Send Email]
You should put an automatic water, (float valve), to keep the tank filled. That's gonna save a lot of time (and overfill when you forget you're filling the tank). Also, something most people forget is have the setup lined out so you can clean around it with a tractor/loader. Cattle have a tendency to hang around water tanks and you end up with quit a mess. About the seperate meter. I have mine on a seperate meter. I keep my house meter seperate from live stock, barn, shop etc. You'll be supprised how this will satisify the publicans (tax people).

Hal/WA    Posted 03-01-2002 at 00:35:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
How far is this from your present water system and how deep is your water table? Drilling a well and setting up a pumphouse with electrical service may be quite expensive. In my area, the power company charges $15/month as a basic charge for every meter, even if you use no power at all. Is there a power line nearby? Out here there is a per foot charge to run power from the nearest power pole to where you want to use it. Wells are one of the largest costs in setting up a place in the country. Deep wells cost big money and require big pumps. One problem with having a pumphouse a long way from your buildings is that someone might decide to steal your pump and tank since you can't see it. At least in my area, doing what you have suggested would be very costly

Have you considered the possibility of burying a pipe from your present water system to a spot where a stock tank could be located? This might involve changing some fences to pick a practical location between the pasture and your water system. Cows will walk a ways to get water. The line would not have to be extremely deep if you use the trick of constantly running the water in very cold weather. I prefer galvanized pipe in the ground for protection from rocks and because it can be thawed with a welder if it does freeze. You might also consider burying an electrical line in the same ditch to power a tank heater for use in the coldest weather, if that is needed. I have never been East in the winter, only in the summer, when it was hotter than heck!

That many cows will require quite a bit of water and a fair size stock tank. It's hard to make any money with cows these days. Hope you get more precipitation. I live on the dry side of Washington State and know what you are going through, though this winter has given us near normal moisture. Good luck.

bob    Posted 03-01-2002 at 14:26:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
if you are going to use this in fall and winter I would get Mirco fountain thrermal heated i bought one ten years ago and haven,t spent one dime for elec it,s automatic and only thing is you have to have enough stock using it to keep open figured first winter paid for it in no elec If you use rotation grazing you will want to pick a place assessable to all padocks

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