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Walmart - long rant
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Chuck, WA    Posted 05-24-2004 at 08:02:57       [Reply]  [No Email]
I was just browsing posts from the weekend as I don't keep up very well then. Generally speaking, I've really enjoyed this forum and often find that it agrees with my own values and opinions. Mostly I lurk, but occasionally post. As I browsed "page 2" I saw a post with lots of replies, nearly all bashing Walmart. I was pleased to see Salmoneye step in with a little balance by suggesting that the negative stuff could be regional because his bag had never been checked - mine hasn't either! But I didn't read much past there as I got tired of the whining.

I want to pass on something my wife learned from one of her favorite farmers at the Pasco, WA farmer's market last Wednesday. Maybe it just might get a few of you folks to think twice before jumping on the "bash Walmart" bandwagon.

The farmer in question was from Walchi Farms down in the Hermiston area of northeastern Oregon who comes up to our market in southeastern Washington every Wednesday and Saturday with a large farm truck loaded with the best melons of all kinds I've ever had - their most famous being Hermiston watermelons. Not sure what they have this early in the season, but they were there. They've come to know my wife who has bought from them for years, so they spent a little time chatting this past week.

Somehow the subject of Walmart came up and the Walchi gal couldn't say enough good about Walmart. It seems that unlike some of the other chain grocery stores (Safeway was mentioned) Walmart - at least as represented by this regional distribution center...I believe closest here is near Salt Lake City - buys as much local produce as possible. But then the real kicker was when the Walchi gal told how she was talking to the distributor and mentioned that she wished they were closer because of times when she's had too many melons to clear before they became too ripe to ship and they just went to the dump. He told her to never do that again. He said to let him know and he'll make arrangements to get them distributed.

Walmnart is building a new, giagantic distribution center not far from here, and the Walchi gal couldn't be more delighted nor positive enough about the good it will do the local farmers to have a large retailer who puts local produce first.

Now, things may be different where you live, but around here, Walmart is a positive factor in the community. It's true that in general, the small, local "Mom & Pop" grocery stores can't compete, but their demise was inevitable when A&P, Krogers, Safeway, and all the others began to grow. As kid in the 40s and 50s in southwest Pennsylvania, we bought most of our stuff at the local A&P. Don't rule out the 7-11, Circle-K, AM-PM and other convenience stores for their part in doing in Mom & Pop either. Mom & Pop didn't just go under when Walmart came along.

I am personally grateful for Walmart in what they do for the community for farmers, as well as for providing inexpensive goods to folks who can afford the higher prices at the independent stores, and for providing gainful employment for a lot of older folks who can't compete in the job market anymore. I am grateful for the stand they often take in refusing to carry products that spit on traditional values (books, CDs, etc. for example). I appreciate that they were one of the first large chains that I know of to stock a Christian book selection. I have never recieved anything but courteous and helpful service.

Maybe y'all should consider the source of some of the stuff you read in the media that bashes Walmart - same source that thinks Kerry is the answer to this country's prayers! The issues they attack Walmart on are often the same social engineering issues that the liberal left proclaims.

My 2-cents!
Chuck, WA

Mark in Mo    Posted 05-24-2004 at 12:47:48       [Reply]  [Send Email]
When the Non-Union Propaganda Video for new hires @ Wal-Mart is longer than
the Safety Video, that should tell you where Wal-Mart's heart is.

At one time there was a huge company in Clinton,Mo that made electric Space Heaters, Crock Pots, etc. which probably employed 700-750 people. Wal-Mart went to the company and wanted them to cut
their cost's by 40%. The company, knowing what all was at stake, asked for a price reduction
on their raw materials (I was a Supplier for them) and by other cost cutting means where able to
cut Wal-Marts cost by 20%. Wal-Mart took their business to China and probably cut their cost
by 70%. The business in Clinton has now closed, and the price of a electric space heater is
still as high as ever.
Don't believe all that "BUY AMERICAN FIRST" Marketing BS from Wal-Mart.
Just My O
Mark Hill

Les    Posted 05-24-2004 at 12:17:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
Chuck, there's two kinds of people in the world: those that divide people into two kinds and those that don't. I'm with you.

ROFLMAO    Posted 05-24-2004 at 10:44:56       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thanx Chuck.

I knew the the problem at Walmart had to be Kerry or Hillary. I just couddint put my finger on it. It's either onedem 2 folks or Bill Clinton that is always the prob.

I knew them folks was gonna be a problem when WalMart hardum. Oh well that's what we get for minimum wage.


Bob    Posted 05-24-2004 at 10:38:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
My favorite thing about WalMart is that when I actually find something that is useful to me...
comfortable socks, a good sump pump, or a favorite workshirt, when I go back a week or two, or six months later the item is no longer carried.

My other favorite is how they continuously re-arrange the aisles and displays so you have to waste time making a repeat purchase of something you bought only a few days before. It obviously geberates sales for them, but the practical side of me finds it $%&* irritating!

The best example of their re-arranging was one Saturday night just before midnight I found a generic replacement ignition switch in the automotive department. I had my hands full, and intended to catch up with the wife and swing by automotive with the cart, on the way to the checkout. I forgot to pick it up, but as it happened, the wife had to make an EMERGENCY trip back to WalMart just after noon the following day (Sunday), so I tagged along to pick up my switch.

I looked and looked for the #@%& switch, and finally asked for help. Overnight, a PORTION of the automotive electrical display had been moved from the center of an aisle to a BACK ENDCAP!

kraigWY    Posted 05-24-2004 at 10:18:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
REading these post I have to agree with Chipper. I don't shop much a Walmart, but the main reason is the Closest is 70 miles away. How ever if in town I do like to stock up on Oil filters for my diesel trucks. I like Sears because of their politics regarding their activated employees, and tools, I am a tool junkie. Price dosn't matter to me as much as convience. I would rather pay more then stand in line. Gas prices? I'm not letting no one or thing change my driving habits. Does this make since, no, but its me.

Makes sense...    Posted 05-24-2004 at 10:44:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
to me....and helps keep me chipper too!!! LOL!!

Clipper: the chipper shopper:^)

Patria    Posted 05-24-2004 at 10:08:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
Great post, Chuck, up to the 7th paragraph that is. All you said after that, imo, has just but weaken what you so nicely stated before. Seems like for many people walmart and politics comes hand in hand.
Not with me, mind you. It's good that there's one in every corner, 'makes' life easier for many, for several reasons. I don't go to walmart but about four times a year, but I'm glad it's there. But I hate to have to stand in line to get my receipt checked, let along my bags. Although, the later's not done in our 'regional' area any more. Some of the shops tried to impose[?] that practice but found some resistance.
I'm no activist of any kind, neither I have some hidden agenda about the walmart issue, for Christ sake...:-), but, checking bags is a no no.:-)


Clipper    Posted 05-24-2004 at 08:58:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
I shop the stores which offer good price,good service,and have what I'm looking for. Sometimes that store is WalMart and sometimes its not. I sure ain't gonna let nobody tell me where to spend the money I have worked for. Freedom of choice is still a neat feature of this country! :^)

have opion too    Posted 05-24-2004 at 08:42:42       [Reply]  [No Email]
seems like we are all susposed to think like you . I can see some of your ideas as progress but don,t take away the thinking that your party is the only right one as everybody has thoughts and beliefs and bush is not mine, I respect your thoughts now respect others

Ron/PA    Posted 05-24-2004 at 10:01:37       [Reply]  [No Email]
What did you just say? Who did you say it to? What does it mean?
How did Bush get involved in Wal-Mart? Is the Iraq war about Wal-Mart and not oil? Are the Bush daughters really Wal-Mart greeters living a secret life?
Inquiring minds want to know, and it may well be a nameless, faceless, poster such as you that can supply the answers.
Confused in Poverty Patch,,,,

Just one question...    Posted 05-24-2004 at 11:10:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
What the heck is an opion?

He sure seems proud of it, whatever it is...

Salmoneye, The Also Confusticated

Mebbe that's...    Posted 05-24-2004 at 11:27:41       [Reply]  [No Email]
the same as havin a ugly MIL????

Clipper: "opion" Director. :^)

~lenore    Posted 05-24-2004 at 09:19:21       [Reply]  [No Email]
I did not see Chuck say that we needed to think like him!! I did not see any disrespect in his post. Did I miss something again?

...he did put his name on his rant; does that make his opinion worth more than yours since you did not?

Just asking; no disrespect intended. :-)

enraged toyota driver    Posted 05-24-2004 at 09:33:48       [Reply]  [No Email]
yes! long live the walmart! YEEHAW!

Clod    Posted 05-24-2004 at 17:53:16       [Reply]  [No Email]
I wonder if A Wallmarts spy posted up there?

Ron/PA    Posted 05-24-2004 at 08:41:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
Chuck, I never have figured out the problem with
Wal-mart! If I don't like the product they are selling I don't buy it.
Seems to me if everyone that complains about them would stop buying from them they'd be out of business real quick.
When I was a kid, you bought everything from your local mom and pop grocery, or hardware, or a combination. Then the supermarkets came along, and ran all the little stores out of business. Soon someone started opening little convenience stores to sell convenience at a higher price, and they work very well.
Changing times and trends? Sure, always have been and always will be.
I still hear people complaining about the loss of the Ames stores in our area. However when Ames was selling Cassett players, and typewriters, Wal-Mart was selling CD players and Computers. Now who is bound to go under?
I'll never figure out the hatred towards Wal-Mart, but I do know I'll shop where it suits my needs. Locals get first crack, then it's off to the best price with the most convenient set up.

I knew...    Posted 05-24-2004 at 08:24:39       [Reply]  [No Email]
I liked you... ;-)

Well thought out and written...


Les    Posted 05-24-2004 at 12:15:22       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well, I hope he doesn't get caught with his opion on him. I'm pretty sure that stuff's illegal.

Bob Mi.    Posted 05-24-2004 at 13:43:56       [Reply]  [No Email]
Walmart lied for years about made in America ! Check out the labels But they have a hell of an advertising campaign to tell you how nice they are !

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