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Wallmart bashing?
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Clod    Posted 05-24-2004 at 18:12:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
What does that mean? OK,,Let's say that I am a redneck..If I find a redneck joke on this board I could say..Hey! This is redneck bashing! What is the diffrence in folks expressing their opinoins on some things ? The problem seems to be when a large number are in opposition to the subject in question.Someone terms it bashing in hopes that this will counter their arguments and pacify the mob of complainers. I go to Wallmarts often but if I find something to complain about in the way they operate then I do bring it to folks attention.If they do like the practice I informed them about that is wonderful . But the shakedown at the door runs counter Amarican basic ideals.There was something stuck in the Bill of rights that speaks about being treated as guilty of a crime before the person commits a crime.Maybe Sam Walton was un Amaercan? But he did collect a lot of pictures of dead presidents before he died. >>>------>$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ <---<<<


Gary in Geneva    Posted 05-25-2004 at 11:39:39       [Reply]  [Send Email]
The slang term for the person at the door is Door Nazi.

We have several stores around here that have them. The fourth amendment to the United States Constitution appears to give us some protection but not much.

One of the reasons that they want to check your bag is to catch the cashiers and customer working together to steal from the store, as well as the customer shoplifting.

Here is how I look at it:

If I have something large (not in a bag) that I purchased in the back of the store (how stupid is that?) Then I will show the receipt but I will not hand it to them or allow them to mark it.

If it is something in a bag that they want to look in I ask them if they have probable cause to suspect me of theft. If so I would wait for an on duty officer to show up so far no one has ask me to wait.

When the door alarm goes off due to them not deactivating one of the sensors I ask them if they have probable cause to suspect me of theft (they should the alarm went off), or was the tag not deactivated. So far no one has stated they thought it might be theft.

I wish them a good day and proceed. I am always cordial and calm in the few cases that it has occurred.

The retail industry studies show that almost one half of all theft is done by employees.

Have I ever stolen from a store yep. I was six years old and stole a needle to air up one of my balls. My mom found out and I received the biggest spanking of my life. We returned to the store and I had to apologize to the manager / owner and pay for the item out of my piggy bank savings. Did I ever do it again NO!




Les    Posted 05-24-2004 at 19:58:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
Now I know it has to be a regional thing. This "shakedown at the door", or whatever you all call it, is something I have no concept of. Are the people where you live so dishonest that they have to be searched going out of a store? I'm glad I'm just a dumb old sh!t kicker from Cow Hampshuh because we ain't got nothin like that in no Wal-Mart I've ever been in here and I've been in most of them in this state. I've never had anything searched nor have I ever seen anybody else searched.


Clod    Posted 05-25-2004 at 04:03:01       [Reply]  [No Email]
>I've never had anything searched nor have I ever seen anybody else searched< Ok,,If you pay for something then it becomes your property right? Then when you get to the last door they look in the blue bag which contains your property when you paid for the product.Do you savy now? When you work an honest weeks work you get a paper called a check.You get it exchanged for money,So you pay for the product with the money and they suspect it is counterfit so mark and examine it. This does not happen where you live? The Wallmart headquarters are in Benton Arkansas,,(I have heard) Are we talking about another Wallmart? Could the CEO of the corporation be born up in your area and exempted you and your neighbors because he knows you are all honest working folks?


slim    Posted 05-25-2004 at 06:01:21       [Reply]  [No Email]
I guess it depends on your definition of "searched", just like your definition of "is".

Here's how it works in all the Walmarts in my area. If your items are in one of their blue bags they don't even slow you down at the door. If you have an item that isn't bagged sometimes they stop you to look at your receipt to make sure you paid for it. This makes good sense to me cause big ticket items like TV's and computers will not fit in one of their blue bags and can be bought at one of the checkouts back inside the store instead of one of the front checkout lines. But sometimes when they are really trying to crack down on shoplifting they will also check the large boxes of cokes and such that are not blue bagged.

The only times I have seen anything close to a real "search" is when someone sets off one of the alarms up by the doors. Then usually one of the door attendents pushes the cart through the door. If this doesn't set the alarm off then they have person go through the door. Or if it's a woman with a purse the attendent will carry the purse through the door. Usually what happens is one of the checkers forgets to deactivate the thing on the item that sets off the alarm.

This happens at almost all of the larger stores in my area. Oops I've even seen it at the smaller stores too. Almost all have sensors at the front doors. So if this bothers you then you might better stay home and live a hermits life cause almost all are doing it.

But if your store is picking out a certain ethnic of economic group and putting them through "up against the wall" type searches, well I might plan a surprise for them. You know put something "special" in my pocket for them to find when they put their hand in my pocket.

later

slim


Salmoneye    Posted 05-25-2004 at 04:57:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
If you were following this from a few days back, you would see that it has been posed, and at least anecdotally confirmed, that it seems to be a 'regional' phenomenon...

I also have never been searched in WalMart (or any other store for that matter)...Not my bags, pockets, underwear or anything else...The only time I have had 'money' looked at was in and around NYC...That never happened to me in Boston, and I used to spend a fair amount of time there in the late 80's...I also spent 6 months in Salt Lake City in 1994 ad never had bags checked or money looked at there...

If all these stories of 'abuse' and implied 'theft' are true, then stay the heck out of those stores for petes sake...

Doesn't make any sense to allow yourself to continue being abused and insulted and then go online and gripe about it...

Just stop patronizing stores that don't treat you the way you think you should be treated...

Simple, no?



Clod    Posted 05-25-2004 at 06:31:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
No Salmoneye.I like to register my complaint where it will get some evaluation.Message boards! Look at my PC question up there,Bye pal,I have to get back to the shop now.


Sorry Dude...    Posted 05-25-2004 at 08:11:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
Don't see any 'PC' question...

Salmoneye,


Oops...Found it...    Posted 05-25-2004 at 08:12:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
Nevermind,


JB    Posted 05-24-2004 at 21:02:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
WalMarts around here don't do a search, either. I reckon it is according to what part of the country you live in, what you gotta put up with.

Frys Electronics in this area, tho, is big on search. The set-up for the registers is such that you can't walk up and choose a line, but have to walk half way across the store and wait for some goober to tell you which register is free. (Like we are blind, and can't see for ourselves?)

They got that sucker fenced off like an amusement park where you walk between the ropes. Goober stands on a ladder, and chooses you a register, you pay, and then follow the walled off walkway to the door. There you encounter another goober who peers into your bags and marks your ticket with a pink hi-liter.

What ticks me off, they got you locked into the walkway, and you can't stray back into the store once you pay... what in the devil are they searching for in the sacks?


Aprille    Posted 05-25-2004 at 10:36:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well..I have to go with Les on this one...I have NEVER been searched or stopped at our Wally world and I have stopped going there as often as I use to..unemployment WILL do that to ya!! HAhaha. I have been treated VERY rudely there on a number of occasions but I truly think it was by people who in fact make their work their life..I was searched MANY times in CVS stores in my hometown in Mass cuz I was PAINFULLY shy and walked around with my hands in my pockets and my head down..ya know..teenage ANGST plus gettin abused..and got searched there PLENTY of time until I started yelling about my rights...


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