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Hunter's sale barn
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Alias    Posted 05-25-2004 at 04:08:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
Big night out. Nancy and I drove over to West Nottingham to the Famous Hunter's Sale Barn last evening.

We went there to buy some annual flowers for the beds. There's an Amish man that has greenhouses in Oxford, Pa that sells at the barn. His plants are as good as anyone's and they are cheaper than most.

Now, every Monday night, for at least the past 35 years, Hunter's has had an auction. And, all around the grounds you'll see vendors with their wares displayed on tables. Mostly, it's all new stuff. And, it's wide assortment include, clothes, shoes, french fries, produce, toys, stuffed animals, clocks, watches, hardware and hunting supplies.

With the exception of two booths manned by the Amish and the french fry place, all the other vendors were either Asian or Mexican. Now, the whole idea of going to a place such as Hunter's is to take in the atmosphere and engage in some commoradery with the people doing business. To listen to what they have to say about their goods and to try, if possible, to come down from their asking price. But, how does one go about this when all you get from the vendor is a blank stare and hear the words, "I no unnearstan"

I tell you friends, I have nothing at all against people earning money. And, there ain't a prejadiced bone in my body. But, do they have to invade the one last remaining sector of Americana.
I looked around up there and it wasn't the same. Whereas, once there was a time when old friends and aquaintences would go to the barn more as a social event that anything else. But, I did not see a single handshake or hear a "Hey, Jake, how the he11 are you"? all night long. No, the people no longer stop and talk, they just move around picking up an item, look it over and lay it down. And, you can't say anything at these places anymore cause you're sure as he11 going to offend somebody. And, the only tongues I could understand from the vendors came from the Amish. And, the very instant I started to talk deal to them they started conversing amongst themselves in Pa. Dutch.

I paid for my flowers and left the place. A light rain began to fall as I drove away. Nancy commented that we got some nice flowers. Lord, I wish I could see the world through her eyes....gfp


AceMann    Posted 04-07-2008 at 17:29:07       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Nice write up. But, Hunters Sale Barn is located outside of Rising Sun Md. Which is next to West Nottingham. You probably got confused because you pass the West Nottingham Accademy next to Hunters. But, West Nottingham Accademy is located Outside of Rising Sun Md. Actually Colora Md. But, Colora is so small and not as well known as Rising Sun. Just in case anyone wanted to go there. But, now the two Amish guys have moved on. They moved to Kentucky last January. But, once in a while you still do get some other Amish popping in. That's because there are several Amish familys living in West Nottingham which is a close enough drive (about 8 miles) in their horse and buggy's. Well, so long, from Red Pump Road, Nottingham PA.


KellyGa I JUST HAVE TO    Posted 05-25-2004 at 11:10:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
I just have to comment on this, because I agree with Alias 100 percent. I think what Alias is trying to say is, why do they have to take our traditions (our, meaning of caucasian nature) and smother theirs all over it. It's like you have a fine steak, needs nothing on it, tastes perfect, and then somebody comes along and dumps a heap of some cheap steak sauce all over it. It kinda ruins it for us that are used to having our OWN traditions.

I have sat here in Georgia and watch the hispanics take over in the very northern parts of Georgia. There is a section of town in Atlanta that no one white dare go into, off Buford Highway. Nothing but black and mexican gangs, flea markets abound.

I have sat here in Georgia and watched all my southern traditions go out the window, because we have a fast paced no nonsense, no time for anybody, I am the most important person on the road, attitude. Gone are the days of barber shops, soda shops, neighbors helping each other out, leisurely Sundays are gone, its just another work day for many.

I have sat here and watched the number of blacks in my daughters school for from 17 the first year, to 28 the next, 37 last year, and now, it has sky rocketed to 104, that is an 8 percent increase in one school year. With it, there has come crime, bullying, rudeness, heck, there was even going to be a gang fight at the high school behind Shelby's elementary school. A group of blacks from a school in Clayton County, a VERY black county, were going to come over here and kill some kids in Henry County. The cops sat out in front of the high school entrance for a week.

I could go on and on and on. But, what I am trying to get across to everyone is this. You always see other cultures come, and then take over, run all over the white culture. You never see white culture taking over a black neighborhood, or a hispanic area. Sorry, I just know I am going to get bashed for this, but whether we like it or not, the south is vanishing, and it is sad to me.


Clipper    Posted 05-25-2004 at 12:32:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
I agree with Alias and Kelly but here is an additional thought....when Americans go to live in another country they are required and expected to learn the language and customs of the host country. This applies to their children as well. Now we see ads in multi-languages and our schools are being FORCED to provide multi-language teachers for these kids who will not learn English. Course the American English speaking taxpayer gets to foot the bill for this. :^(


screaminghollow    Posted 05-25-2004 at 10:38:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
Gee's I haven't been to hunter's in a coon's age, mebbe 12 years. Last went to Zern's in Gilbertsville in 1999. Still go to Roots in Mannheim and The Green Dragon in Ephrata a few times per year. Now those are still real markets. It shouldn't be that far for you to go to Renningers'.
I do miss the old time vendors. To an extent, I agree with Paula, those "immigrant" folks are just trying to make their way to a piece of the American Dream. That some of the poster's find fault with the failure to speak English, I find it ironic. When I was a youngin' many of the vendors spoke little English and spoke mostly Pennsylvania Dutch. Even though their families had been in the Country for 4 or 5 generations.
For those folks who say "this is America, learn to speaky English" I have to wonder why they think it's quaint fo the Amish to speak their language, for the PA Dutch to speak theirs, for the oldster's in Minn and the Dakotas to speak Swedish or Norwegian, yet for Asians and Latinos, they darn well better be fluent in English as a requirement to be here. Seems like a double standard.
Heck, I can't understand Boomhauer on "King of the Hill" And I've met real American's who are hard as the dickens to understand. And I don't mean folks who speak "ghetto-ese" For instance, older white Farmer's from the Eastern shore of Va., it is like a completely different language.

And for those of you who think you speak English, try conversing with a London native, or someone from Scotland.

True Fact: When the first Congress voted on an official language for our fledgling nation, German won the majority of votes. Guten Tag!


Paula    Posted 05-25-2004 at 08:27:14       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I guess it's a matter of perspective. You see the
growing trend of Asians and Mexicans in the market as
an "invasion", I see it as immigrants trying to pursue the
American dream.

Paula


Ron/PA    Posted 05-25-2004 at 10:13:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
Sorry Paula, you see it as pursuing the american dream, I see it as pursuing the american handout.
If they were really pursuing the great american dream, the first thing they would do is make some kind of attempt to learn the language of those they wish to have as customers.
Not for me thank you, however if they want to make an effort,,,,, I'm behind them all the way.
Later
Ron


Paula    Posted 05-25-2004 at 10:16:10       [Reply]  [Send Email]
LOL! Foreigners just can't win. If we come and do
business we're taking over and invading, if we come
and do nothing, we're mooching off the government.

Gotta fly.
I'll search out this thread tomorrow.

Paula


Jen    Posted 08-02-2008 at 09:13:20       [Reply]  [Send Email]
No you can't win, when you just take, take, take from we U.S. born citizens. What about OUR rights?
My husband can't get work because it's cheaper for his boss to hire illegal aliens!! All we ask is if you're here, at least TRY to speak our language. If I went to any foreign country, I would want to blend in and learn the native language.


Alias    Posted 05-25-2004 at 09:43:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
Paula, it was not my intent to alieniate anybody. But, it's just like I said. Anything you say will offend somebody.

I think I better understand how the American Indians felt when the Europeans invaded North America. Their good old days were no more. And, like the Indians, we have to make adjustments. But, Learning to like it is another issue all together. I simply wish that people on the front line of main stream America, would speak in a main stream dialect. I, for one, am sick of receiving blank stares and being told "I no onnerstan" I personally think it's a cop out. It's a means whereby anyone can avoid making any committments. My thinking is, in the market place, people should speak to the buyer.....gfp


Paula    Posted 05-25-2004 at 10:09:35       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Change is always hard to take isn't it. I'm not known as
a flexible thinker myself LOL. I prefer all my ducks in a
row thank you, and don't mess with my damned ducks!

Regarding the english speaking thing. Agreed, our
language for the moment is english. It behoves us to
learn to communicate in english. However, is one
consideration.

It takes a lot of guts to try to speak another person's
language. It's embarrasing, it's frustrating and it's not
always received well. I took a certification course in
teaching english as a second language (some years
ago) and the first thing they did to us potential teachers
was to turn the tables. We had to participate in a video
lesson in russian. The teacher spoke russian, there
were no english prompts (the Laubach method is total
emmersion - the fastest way to pick up conversation). I
was surprised by how intimidated I felt in that
environment. I was too self concious to participate.
What an eye opener! I realized that in such a situation -
where I was in a country that spoke a completely
unfamiliar language - I would be inclined to speak only
english, isolate myself from situations where I could not
speak english and basically become what some people
perceive as stuck up (in reality it's "isolated" not "stuck
up").

If not for that experience I wouldn't have understood
that while immersion and pratice are the fastest ways to
pick up a language, they are also the most difficult and
intimidating. Especially for adults so aware of
themselves.

Don't get me wrong, I love learning foreign languages
and am quite adept. What I've discovered is that there
is a huge difference between a language class that you
can leave at the end of the session and being thrown
into the deep end, surrounded by foreign tongue. So
when I am faced with speaking to someone who is
barely understandable, I give them credit for trying and I
try my best to make them feel comfortable enough to
keep trying.


Texas    Posted 05-25-2004 at 09:46:37       [Reply]  [No Email]
I agree Alias. Here they try that then I speak to them in Spanish. Usually they can speak English just as good as I can, but choose to try to play "dumb".

Welcome to America. Now speak English dammit.


dale anne    Posted 05-25-2004 at 05:50:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
howdy alias...ya need to move here to arkansas...go to a local walmart and ya better expect to take an hour or so to pick up asprin lol....a yard sale...well by the end of it ya will know how many children the folks have and the name of thems inlaws!...I lived in Philadelphia for 27 years and know what ya are talking about...we use to have an italian market that I went to every week to get meats and such..well seemed to me that in about a years time all the faces i was use to dealing with was replaced by asians that didnt speak english...I stopped going to the market...I looked forward every week to going and seeing my ole friends...dealing with them and arguing prices iffin i won or not...think they enjoyed it also....but seems that we are a on the go people now....no time to stop and chat....well not where I live now......drive down the highway and i promise ya.....someone will wave to ya...iffin ya know them or not...when i first moved here folks would wave as i drove and would ask Michael that a friend of yers...he would say yeah he is now...but dont know his name........dale anne


Texas    Posted 05-25-2004 at 04:24:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
D@mn profound Alias. Its all about the almighty dollar now. We can thank the Yuppie-ization of America on the children of the 60's. Now its all about the dollar and convienience. Not quality or a mans word or friendship.


E. G. HENDRICKSON    Posted 05-25-2004 at 04:23:29       [Reply]  [Send Email]
It is the same here with all of the flea markets
in the Tulsa area, so far the Okmulgee livstock auction has not changed much.


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