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United we Stand - Divided we fall
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Jim - Illnois    Posted 05-31-2004 at 06:04:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
God bless our fallen men and women. They died so we can be Americans!! Hold safe our troops in battle now!


bo    Posted 05-31-2004 at 07:16:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
"Divided we fall"....that's the rub...we are divided...Watched a Marine recruiting station having problems recruiting future Marines....the recruiter said it well.." People want to live in American but they don't want to pay the rent". How many do you know that wouldn't even contemplate the thought of their son or daughter serving? How many on this board hold the same opinion? How many would watch their son, like mine who just got back from Ft. Drum, hit the dirt when my tractor backfired and say , damn, they trained him good?


kraigWY    Posted 05-31-2004 at 08:23:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
I think you underestimate our kids and their families. Military.com had an article not long ago, enlistments and re-enlistments are at record levels. The Army has a six month waithing period for basic. There may be some local areas that may have problems, but on a whole Americans are standing tall. The negitive news does in no way reflect this country. I was at Walter Reed, I talked to these kids. Though torn and hurt these kids want repaired so they can return to their Units and Comrades. Don't sell our kids short.

Oh: Walk the Walk? I was turned down because of my age but I'm still in the retired reserves (25 years Reg and Reserve service) Wife just got back from the ME and retired (23 years). Still have two sons and a step son in.

Don't sell Americans short. Don't fall to the negitivity of the news media.


bo    Posted 05-31-2004 at 08:37:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
Nope, not selling our kids short nor their families and I certainly hope you're right and maybe this not the day to talk about this. I believe what I said and down deep I think you know I'm right,but again, this is not the day.


ron,ar    Posted 05-31-2004 at 07:26:56       [Reply]  [No Email]
The truth is that some of the things we have gotten into, Somolia comes to mind, makes recruiting pretty tough. I know the Reserves and National Guard are having a tougher time of it too. The lure of extra money and educational benefits is not enough in times like this to overcome the risk in some minds. I thought the risk just sorta came with the territory. I hope your friends son does well. All our servicemen/women and vets deserve (have earned) our respect and rememberance.


bo    Posted 05-31-2004 at 07:43:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
My son.

Somalia and all the other fiasco's are the fault of our politicians and not that of the military.

My son is highly trained and has been for the last 9 years he's served. He's been activated 5 times since 9-11 and will continue to be activated. It doesn't help much when his parents support his choice and remind him now and then to come home victorious or come home on his shield.

Still, talk is cheap and my original comments stand. How many do you know that'll talk the talk but not walk the walk, and just members of this board?


ron,ar    Posted 05-31-2004 at 13:57:28       [Reply]  [No Email]
sorry Bo, I don't know how I mis-read that. I have the greatest respect for our service people today. It's these "hotspots" that worry me, no clearcut enemy, no defined borders and allies that are questionable. Still they do what they are asked and always have, at a great cost sometimes.


ron    Posted 05-31-2004 at 07:12:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
Amen to that.


Steve from Tn    Posted 05-31-2004 at 07:07:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
Clod,you said it well.


DD    Posted 05-31-2004 at 07:46:16       [Reply]  [No Email]
Amen to that and the post by Alias also : )


Clod    Posted 05-31-2004 at 06:43:29       [Reply]  [No Email]

Just a few years ago I often walked among these rows of white markers and think,One of them could have had my name on it but does not.Maybe I should have been a little more bold,,Like many of these guys, but fate left me here today after being a witness to those who took much greater risk than I ,and paid a much higher price than I,,For our country,Which I think I also loved as much as they.Yet elsewhere this very day.The younger ones are there to risk all .And me,, I'm still here, able to say ,THANKS !


Willy-N    Posted 05-31-2004 at 11:22:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
My Father is now among his fallen Comrades and my Mother has also joined him there buired in the Military Cemetary in San Deigo, Calif. When you see all the white markers lined up in rows it makes you think how many gave up so much for the Freedoms we have now. Today is there day of rememberance! Mark H.


Old Sarge    Posted 05-31-2004 at 10:39:49       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Clod,

"All gave some, BUT some gave all".

That's my philosophy. When people call me a hero I always tell them "I'm not a hero, I'm a survivor. We buried the heroes." They look at me a little strangely, while looking at my decorations, Silver Star, 3 Bronze Stars (one with V device), 3 Purple Hearts, Combat Infantryman's Badge, along with all the I was there stuff.


Alias    Posted 05-31-2004 at 07:36:36       [Reply]  [No Email]
Sometimes we think all those who died, did so for country. And, they did to a point. It was for Country and families, mothers and fathers, and sons and daughters and brothers and sisters. But, never overlook the fact that they waged their lives for themself. For, they knew in their hearts, when the call came, they were compelled by their own conscience to go. Or, forever live in shame and degredation. And that friends is what it means to pay the price. For, freedom doesn't just mean living in a land such as ours. It also mean that your mind is free because you've overcome fear to made it free.
We honor them because these men could proudly look into a mirror.

God Bless them all.........gfp


KellyGa    Posted 05-31-2004 at 07:20:39       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thanks for the picture Clod. FOr those of us who have not been there before, it is a good picture to help us remember.


Clod    Posted 05-31-2004 at 08:03:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
We could be diffrent,Our country could .We could just sit down and do nothing.Call in our millitary and disband it.We could have let others reach out for space and send men and devices up there into the unknown.We could just follow those who lead in the world. We could just set here and be observers like you are when you watch TV.We could all just watch things happen,like going to ball games and never be a ball player. We can become couch potatoes in the world of politics and power.We would get little critisism from the rest of the world and the liberal press. But is that American? We have invented most of the important things you find so useful today.Air conditioners ,Computers,, We are creative and bold..We are diffrent.. We dont follow. Unless we decide to become followers. I dont plan to be a follower .I'm an AMERICAN!


~Lenore    Posted 05-31-2004 at 09:07:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
YES SIR; LOVE THAT AMERICAN ATTITUDE.
I surely hope it is not being disolved by all the liberalism that is fed daily to us.
I personally turn that stuff off!!


Clod    Posted 05-31-2004 at 09:35:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
The media speaks out of both sides of its double lips.First they ask why dont we do something ,Then when we do the media says why did we do that? They risk nothing. (BUT THEIR CREDIBILITY)


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