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How to Thresh??
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Bigshrimp    Posted 03-14-2002 at 13:42:34       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hi all, if I was to grow 1-2 acres of grain (wheat, barley, oats, etc.), what would be the best way to thresh the grain? Flail, combine, threshing machine??

Thanks.


alan green    Posted 10-20-2006 at 19:04:15       [Reply]  [Send Email]
we had two row orange pull type combine pulled by a M international-1964-69,my father really liked that thing,he could take it,all apart-and pull it back to together,ptp,cut wheat-soybeans,had a bin,filled 65 GMC truck up,don't know year-model,father passed away,after that he had two 45 john deer self-perpell combine,got them ,real cheap,corn head on one,soybean head on other.


Justin - PA    Posted 03-15-2002 at 09:12:38       [Reply]  [No Email]
I asked about pull-type combines at the ytmag site. I was wondering if a Farmall H (or Super H) could pull a pto driven pull-type combine. The general response was yes, if the combine is under 6 feet wide and the land is not too hilly. An H/SH is around 30 hp. These older pto combines are cheap, and fun to use...when we get our ten acres going in wheat that is what I plan on using.


Mike in Va.    Posted 03-14-2002 at 20:16:49       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hello Bigshrimp,
Someone mentioned a pull-type combine. We've got a J.D. 12a that has a small 2 cyl. gas engine (LUC model). It can be pulled with a small utilty tractor of 30 hp. or so. Our combine is a 'bagger' it takes 2 people to operate it. One on the tractor, one on the combine filling feedbags with the grain as it flows from the auger tube.
My neighbor has a J.D. model 11. His is p.t.o. driven and has a bin. So, 2 types of this style combine- bagger type or bin type. Also there are 2 types of power source: aux. motor on the combine or a p.t.o. driven combine. Both types are noisy, dusty, and very rewarding to operate if you aren't in any kind of a hurry.
The canvas pickup belts are still being manufactured for these old machines. There are several salvage yards that offer parts. The manuals can be found on eBay if you are patient. If you decide to buy your own vintage combine, then try to get it early enough to have the thing working by harvest. It'll provide a grin on your face when you make the first pass through the grain, sure enough.
Once you get the bugs worked out with one it will give you service as long as you keep it dry and rub its belly every now and then...
I wish you the best of success with your idea. Either way you go at it, let us all know what you decide to do, and what your results are.
Best Wishes- Mike


OW - oh, i love tinkering :)    Posted 03-14-2002 at 17:36:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
Okay, you're looking at maybe 40-50 bushels of oats altogether, right? So you need a plan. first consideration: How handy are you or do you have a neighbor who likes to tinker?
(unless you have a combine) You'll need something to cut, tie, shock, and haul the properly-field-dried grain first. So there's the first project. Once it's shocked, one hayrack will haul the stuff, no matter how you thresh it.

That "threshing bee" sounds like something the neighbors could enjoy and a good excuse for fellowship. I'd concentrate on that aspect first. As to "how?" i have a couple thoughts:

1) Somewhere near you, guaranteed, is a group of "Pioneer Farmers" who have the perfect equipment & like to put on demonstrations every summer. Before their summer schedule gets too anchored, drive on over & start asking questions.

2) Otherwise, or if you decide to go it alone, or if you might have beans or some other crop to play with, why not think about using a chicken-plucker?
They're nothing more than a rotating rubber-fingered drum driven by a small electric motor, but if they can safely beat the feathers (& skin if you're clumsy) off a chicken, then if you touched a bundle to the thing, oats should fly all over a tarp! (no, you don't want an "internal" unit but an "overshot" type with a small drum & the fingers on the outside. Might work on your chickens too :)



Spence    Posted 03-14-2002 at 16:58:48       [Reply]  [No Email]
For 2 acres why not just have a threshing bee.
Put a canvas on the floor, some chairs on that and have some people with flails, and some with clean shoes tramping. Have some beer ready and have an outdoor lunch and maybe a shindig in the evening. You can bring in all your sheaves in
the barn on a good day and have your bee when you want it out of the weather. Feed the stalk to the animals or bedding.
Just wack the stalks against the back of the chairs and the grain will fly all over. Sweep up and prepare for the next batch. You'll have to dry the grian further for a month before air tight storage in drums.
Winnowing can be done with a couple of 16in fans.
Depending on conditions, for wheat you can get anywhere from 30/50 bushels/acre,barley 25,buckwheat 15/20 bushels, a 20X30ft plot will
produce a bushel of oats, you can get hulless oats to save you a step.
I recall when my father bought a farm many years ago, the barn had a huge combine in it complete with the canvases and the whole bit, circa 1950. But for a couple of acres it's not worth the effort of refubishing an older machine. There may be smaller combines around to do the job, but I can't say.


Somebody educate me here-PCC-AL    Posted 03-14-2002 at 16:21:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
When I was younger, make that about 1953 or 54, we raised oats on a 4 acre patch. We had the 8N but a friend had the combine. The best I remember it was pulled behind the tractor. Sorry about this, but it was a JD combine. The friend was the JD dealer in our area. I remember sitting in a seat and holding the croaker (burlap) sack while the oats filled it. I'm just not acquainted with all the terms as our area doesn't grow a lot of wheat, but some oats. Am I mistaken about the equipment or what???


Bob /Ont.    Posted 03-14-2002 at 17:41:26       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Think I can relate to what you are saying, My grandfather had a combine like that. No bin you had to bag as it came out.
Bob


Bob /Ont.    Posted 03-14-2002 at 14:52:32       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Getting someone to combine it would be the most efficient but with 1 to 2 acres it must be a hobby or for fun. In that case look around for a binder that works with good canvases on it and a thrashing machine. You will also need a 30 hp tractor with a pully and a drive belt too.
This may seem to be a lot but if you are in it for fun and can do this it will be worth your while. The quality of grain is much better this way, we could always sell our grain, when they where only buying western grain, due to this method.
Keep thrashing alive Bob


Bigshrimp    Posted 03-14-2002 at 14:59:57       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I agree, when production is not the issue the old ways are better!
What are your thoughts on a ground driven combine? Better than using a binder and thresher or not?


Bob /Ont.    Posted 03-14-2002 at 15:51:24       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hi I think you mean a pto or self powered combine.
That would be easier for you, and swathing first would give better results than a cutter head.
Guess I just wanted to see you spending long hours out there in the sun stooking grain like I did.:<)
What ever you can get the easiest is best, storage is a consideration.
Good luck Bob


TUG PULL 12A or similar    Posted 03-14-2002 at 14:47:40       [Reply]  [Send Email]
What about an old pull type combine? Seen them go for less than scrap metal price at auctions. You'd need a shed to keep it under to have it hold up for the future. A whole bunch of grain got put up with a John Deere 12A.... Do some lookin into it: I think you'll find it'll be hard to ever get a custom cutter in there for just an acre. I'd look seriously at old pull types. Seek advice from an oldtimer or two... time to bring these old combines back out and into service. Perfect for what you got in my way of thinking.


Bigshrimp    Posted 03-14-2002 at 14:53:47       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I've thought of that but heard they take a lot of horses to pull. Personally never seen one, does the grain dump into a bin or do you have to drive a bin along side it?



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