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How do you control roadside trash?
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rhudson    Posted 03-15-2002 at 01:05:36       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Since i venting so much tonight, i'll ask for help on a local problem. we have a major trash problem that is generated by two different sources.
The first. From consuming fast food and beer while driving from the two local towns. the bottles, styrofoam, and wrappers end up along the road side.

The second. our county sets trash dumpsters at various sites. Most have no fencing. Most are overflowing before they are empted by trash trucks. the results is that the wind, and dogs scatter this overflow for about a 300 yard radius.

could we ask the court system to give more community service sentencing in the form of clean up details?

Could a tax be attached to fast food paid for at the drive through window and for cold beer singles? if so, could this tax be specifically for clean up and additional trash trucks and not be placed in the general fund. (we got bit on the lottery that was passed because it would go only to education. one year later lottery profits went into general fund, schools still broke)

Thanks for any ideas you may have.

Irv    Posted 03-16-2002 at 09:28:56       [Reply]  [No Email]
In michigan, we have had a bottle bill since the 70's. Best legislation Michigan ever had. Hardly ever see an empty bottle on the roadside.

Harry Ball Jr.    Posted 05-16-2002 at 07:21:06       [Reply]  [No Email]

Travis (Big Mac) (Fat pants) Broten    Posted 05-16-2002 at 07:25:53       [Reply]  [Send Email]
It really, really, really, sucks!!!!!!!!

Harry Ball Sr.    Posted 05-16-2002 at 07:22:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
It was ok even though my son thinks more of this bad site

RayP(MI)    Posted 03-16-2002 at 19:24:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
I worked for the county road commission mowing off the roadsides here in Michigan before the bottle bill was passed (by the people by referendum - not by the legislature,). There were two of us driving tractors on the team. Got used to having beer bottles popping about every six feet, as this was before they switched to cans. Between the two of us, we had a good day if neither one had a flat tire. My tractor was a little better, as it had steel reinforced truck tires. Now, most of the litter is paper and foam. Beer cans disappear with amazing regularity. If they would only change the law to include a deposit on non-carbonated beverage containers!

Duey (IA)    Posted 03-15-2002 at 12:09:26       [Reply]  [Send Email]
The landfill in our area (privately owned) had such a bad reputation for letting trash blow away on windy days, that, I think the county insisted they clean it up from the surrounding farms and roads leading to the landfill. This means wages and benifits paid out, so they now give you a hefty additional charge on ANY loads brought in that are not tarped. I think the county supervisers are the ones to complain to and maybe show them a video tape of the trash problem at their meetings. If the problem is brought up, they have to respond to it here. Duey

Mark Hendershot    Posted 03-15-2002 at 08:48:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
I know what you mean! I just keep picking it up from in front of our place. One day I counted beer cans and beer bottles only while I was driving the school bus back home. This is a 5 mile drive dirt country road but I started counting when I was around a mile from the house and counted over 128 that I could see right off the bat ther were more and I had a hard time counting as fast as I could see them! It seems to stop right where my neibors (6) turn to drive to there place off a easement on my property. Where they sit and wait for the kids to come home, my last stop they are all over the place. This is about 500 ft from my drive way. Dose it seem that I have a problem with littering of beer containers or is this just in my mind? You would think they could bring them home and throw them away since they are so close. Never have said anything to them about it. I don't drink anymore and and didn't want to sound like a EX-Smoker! I still smoke. This has been going on for allmost 6 years and the piles are stacking up. They are about every 2-3 ft in one place andI did not count these! Got any ideas?? Mark H.

Jim (Mi)    Posted 03-15-2002 at 09:07:39       [Reply]  [Send Email]
We have cans obviously. But I definately noticed the can debris to be much worse in states with no deposits. At 10c a can heck we do not need the adopt-a-highway program. The bag people take care of them. The city's are trashy, but the country side is not so bad.

Mark Hendershot    Posted 03-15-2002 at 09:29:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
Here they are only worth alum value. I was thinking of picking them all up and putting them in a pile next to where they park but thought they would just add to the pile. This is glass to and some of these guys have there cows on open range. Don't understand it maybe it is just getting that last beer down before going back home to have another one?? Mark H.

Jim (Mi)    Posted 03-15-2002 at 07:50:24       [Reply]  [Send Email]
About two months ago my dad got a $500 ticket for flicking his cigarette butt out the window. Cop saw it and gave him a littering ticket. My mom loved it. All she ever did for the last 26 years is tell him to quit smoking. And how it was a bad habit. She called everyone and told them. He still does it though. But it was a small victory for my mom.

F14    Posted 03-15-2002 at 06:37:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
I generally run 'em off with Mr. Remington...

Cowboy Joe    Posted 03-15-2002 at 05:55:03       [Reply]  [No Email]
People or garbage?

PCC-AL    Posted 03-15-2002 at 05:51:28       [Reply]  [No Email]
Our county landfill is located half way between two towns 25 miles apart. I live in one and commute to work in the other. The road is littered so badly that it's hard to believe. It is especially bad from the town where I work to the landfill. The garbage trailers that the town uses either have no tops or only are partly covered. I was behind one the other day with a piece of chicken wire being used to try to hold the trash in. It was blowing out like crazy. Just follow one of the trailers to the landfill and watch the stuff blow out. I wish the TV folks would come take pictures of that just before election time.

Spence    Posted 03-15-2002 at 05:29:21       [Reply]  [No Email]
In this county garbage pickup taxes have been climbing. Lately they've imposed a bag tax and the folks have a quota as to how many bags they can
put out. Twice a year they have free garbage days.
But to ensure we don't get it ALL our way they impose a 10$ dumping permit for the year.

I also collect steel. I used to go and pick up old iron,2X4's and anything else of value.
Now it's like trying to get out of Area 51. The dump super inspects your truck on the way out
and adds to his stash at the rear of the shed.
The way I see it is the people who got rid of it, then it belongs to anyone.

The irony is that in my last county they tried the same thing with the end result of
garbage at dead ends and strewn all over the roads. The moral is when people don't want something it doesn't pay to try to force the issue.

Which brings me to another issue, the recycle
ripoff. Here we get penalized for purchasing
produce to sustain our families. I am forced to purchase milk for my family which forces me to
also purchase the packaging. By recycling, someone gains a profit but I don't get any royalties for separating and putting it out. I'd like to see taxes drop by the proportion of the recycling returned.


Ole Cuss    Posted 03-15-2002 at 02:24:09       [Reply]  [No Email]

Our county detention center sends out nonviolent, short sentence offenders on regular trash details. There is also a Maryland state program where individuals, families, clubs, and businesses can sign up to tend a one-mile stretch of secondary road; the sign-up obligates you to clean at least four times a year, and the state provides trash bags, orange vests, and warning signs to put out when your crew is on the job, and the state also picks up the filled trash bags. There is no cost to participate except your time and energy. It does keep "adopted" roads cleaner. Our local Izaak Walton League adopted a section of road and, as a life member, I was more than happy to participate in every cleanup. I did have a neighbor stop one day and say he had seen me out cleaning the highway and asked what I had done to have to do that. I said I was just an Izaak Walton member and explained the program; he replied that he assumed that I was part of a county jail work detail! I couldn't wait to take that story to the next Izaak Walton meeting. (Maybe I should have told him that I'd shot a neighbor being being snoopy and gossipy)

Alvin-Va    Posted 03-15-2002 at 06:57:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
O.C.Trash pickup on roadways works about the same here,except I don't think we can send inmates out to clean the roadways,too degrading.
I have to admire your restraint in not replying as you mentioned to your nosey neighbor.
Yur a good man.

Redneck    Posted 03-15-2002 at 02:57:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
They have the same programs here in Alabama.I had never paid much attention to them before but watched one day when I was working up on a hill above the road.The inmates were much more interested in oogalling the women that had to slow to a crawl to pass and picking up scrap that I learned later they sell and keep the money,than picking up trash.They walked by alot more than they picked up.

I don't feel for them......bread and water,hard labor,and a tent works for me if they git pass my friendly dogs and Old Betsey.

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