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So long, Dutch
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Les    Posted 06-11-2004 at 09:31:35       [Reply]  [No Email]

You were the best.


E. G.    Posted 06-11-2004 at 14:48:16       [Reply]  [No Email]
les, thank you for posting a good photo of a great
leader. even though i did not have the pleasure
of serving my time in the military under his watch
i would have been proud to. rest in peace mr president.


LH    Posted 06-11-2004 at 11:41:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
He was a good man


Unbelievable,    Posted 06-11-2004 at 10:56:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
You actually blame him for delaying the aids research?
Well maybe Mother Theresa was responsible for the problems in Calcutta.
Nice timing.
Ron/PA


rachel    Posted 06-11-2004 at 10:20:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
what a great picture!!


DD    Posted 06-11-2004 at 09:50:21       [Reply]  [No Email]
This is a wonderful and very touching article on President Reagen and his faith in Jesus Christ. He was a true believer. We will see him again <+><
Ronald Wilson Reagan wielded the broom that swept the
Soviet Union--that most evil empire in history--into the
ash heap of history. And he did it without firing a shot.
The collapse of Soviet rule and the breakup of an empire
responsible for the death of more than 100 million people
took place because of his courage and vision.

The news this week of President Ronald Reagan's passing
has given me the opportunity to reflect on an encounter
I had with this great man during the 1980 presidential
campaign.

It was early in 1980, and I joined a handful of other
Christian ministers who were invited to come and speak
with the then ex-governor and ask him questions. This
was a private meeting--not a public forum.

Many questions were asked. When my turn came, I said,
"Governor, I would like to ask you a very important
spiritual question."

I asked Governor Reagan: "If you were to die and stand
before God and He were to say to you, 'Why should I let
you into My Heaven?' what would you say?"

It was as if I had punched him in the solar plexis!

Reagan doubled over, put his head down between his knees
and stayed there for about 45 seconds.

Now, that is quite a long time, especially since up until
that point we had been involved in a rather lively question
and answer session.

Slowly, Reagan sat back up straight and said, in somber
tones, words which I shall never forget:

I don't deserve to go to Heaven. The only thing that I
could say would be, "For God so loved the world, that He
gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in
him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

My friend, Ronald Reagan was a great man. A man of incredible
vision for America as a "shining city on a hill." A man who
turned the course of our nation. A man who stared down the
"evil empire" and is rightfully credited for winning the
Cold War. A man who stood by the unborn and upheld religious
freedom.

Most important of all, Ronald Reagan was a man who had a
personal and abiding faith in Jesus Christ.

As Michael Reagan said shortly after his father's passing:

I am secure in the knowledge that he is with his Lord and
Savior, Jesus Christ in heaven. The greatest gift my father
ever gave me was the simple knowledge that I would see
him in heaven one day.

Historian David Barton has noted that in years gone by, as
public leaders neared their time of death, even the press
watched closely with great interest to see how that leader
faced death. Were there any parting words? In essence,
the world watched to see if those who professed their
faith in life would profess their faith in death.

Reports from the Reagan family of President Reagan's final
moments reveal a man who died in his faith. Although disease
had sapped his ability to speak, and he had not opened his
eyes for several days, President Reagan offered to his wife,
Nancy, what she would call "the greatest gift he could have
given me."

According to daughter Patti Davis:

At that last moment when his breathing told us this was
it, he opened his eyes and looked straight at my mother.
Eyes that had not opened for days did, and they weren't
chalky or vague. They were clear and blue and full of life.
If a death can be lovely, his was.

Michael Reagan said, "His last earthly look was at his wife;
his next look was at the face of God."

I trust you will take time out in the next few days
to honor the memory of this great man of faith who literally
changed the course of our nation and the world.

As you do, recount to your friends and family this bedrock of
faith in Jesus Christ, which served as a compass for Ronald
Wilson Reagan.




Aprille..    Posted 06-11-2004 at 09:39:06       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Oh and you KNOW I was just bustin' chops on this poor man today!! Lol..Well..I do have some positive things to say for him..he never got upstaged by a chimp and he was a great storyteller..Can't say much for his acting but I like how he stood up for himself during his famous speech regarding the microphone..I just really wish he had done more for HIV and AIDS research ..


Les    Posted 06-11-2004 at 09:43:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
AIDS was "discovered" during his time in office. The government spent $5.7 billion (yes, with a B) on it before he left office. But of course it's all his fault. He's responsible for the behavior of others, right?


~Lenore    Posted 06-11-2004 at 12:07:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
$5.7 BILLION ($5,700,000,000.00) is quite a lot.

Makes me wonder if that much had been spent on Alzheimer research prehaps his last ten years would have been much different.

As we all grow older, hopefully as much will be spent on Alzheimers as on AIDS/HIV.




Aprille..    Posted 06-11-2004 at 09:49:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
Nope but because he held off on it over 6000 men women and children died because no one looked into it or began research on it..I don't blame him solely but I truly feel he WAS a small part of the problem


Ennis    Posted 06-11-2004 at 10:48:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
Not to be argumentive but isn't HIV infections still on the rise and isn't the real reason because of people's behavior and not because science hasn't found a cure?


Granny    Posted 06-11-2004 at 13:11:03       [Reply]  [No Email]
Please do not blame one man in office
(Mr. Reagan)for the tidal wave of social changes and their consequences ie: SID's and AIDS.

When I and my contemporary cousins were very young, we were admonished by our elders to be a "good example" to the younger kids. We tried to be just that.

Do you ever hear that today?


Granny    Posted 06-11-2004 at 13:35:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
Furthermore, today with small families relocating, it is not likely that a child will even have an elder sibling or cousins to be role models. Enter the media. If Brittany or forbid the rediculous madonna are role models then don't blame a president.

It is horrifying that aids can be transmitted non sexually. T.B. patients like my Grandmother used to be contained, willingly, so as not to infect their children . She died of the disease but her unselfishness ensured the survival of her children. Do we see that unselfishness and self denial for the good of others today?



DD    Posted 06-11-2004 at 11:25:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
MY OPINION on that is, it's not every case of HIV infection that's caused by folks behaviour. Not their lifestyle, IV drug use or whatever. Lots of folks have been infected by a simple blood transfusion and I'll let it go at that : )


Granny    Posted 06-11-2004 at 13:39:28       [Reply]  [No Email]
I know you are right.


Burrhead    Posted 06-11-2004 at 12:02:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
2-3 years ago there was a 14 year old child died from aids near my house. He caught it from a normal dentist visit.



Aprille    Posted 06-12-2004 at 14:16:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
To be honest..yes anyone can get AIDS/HIV and what I said was not that he was the cause OR the one person who held off but he WAS a BIG Person that could have done more for research and for his own or the GOVERNMENTS reasons..he didn't..It took Rock Hudson to become ill before Holly wierd stood up and said..ooo..maybe there is a prob..Little Ryan White got it from a blood transfusion..I do not deny the GOOD things Ron did..I also don't deny the fact that he made a few bad calls based on what OTHERS may have told him..as for setting an example..I STILL believe HIGHly in that and teach my kids the same..the reasons why I don't drink or party and why I QUIT smoking!! So I could NOT be called a hypocrite..I teach my kids the same things about respect..FOR ALL PEOPLE..but only if they respect u..not BLINDLY as I was taught..


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