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Clod    Posted 06-17-2004 at 16:55:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
A lady way down there hinted that we are not very bright here on this board.I think she was pointing the finger more towards me (The redneck) than you guys. So I thought I would ask a qiestion for the interlectials who love to get a stab at proveing they are smarter than us average folks. OK,,Question >>>> The four cylinder engine in the Cat 17 A dozer was used for other things .Like farm water pump powerplants and numerous other applications.So a bright person from a major Ivy League University should know the answer to this. The oil pump is driven by several gears which recieves power from the crankshaft.Due to it being a four cylinder engine they added a counter rotateing balancer in that gear arrangement.So,, How many turns do you turn the oil pump gear (If you have it properly timed) To go from all marks in time to the next time they align that way??

Dave 2N    Posted 06-17-2004 at 18:13:57       [Reply]  [Send Email]
After reading some of the replys, I guess she might have a point.

Bubba    Posted 06-17-2004 at 18:57:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
you sounds lack dogbarkindave r-u fum NooYawk 2 ?? ah thank dats whur Rush libs nowdayz

JB    Posted 06-17-2004 at 18:40:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
That womern called my furst name, Jingoist, and what I wanna know is how'd she know me frum Adam's All-Fox, as m'neighbor used to say.

Them other names she called, Proslytizin... seems like I had a 2nd cuz named somethin like that, only we jist called him Bubba.. an in them cases real names gits kindly lost. She mentioned Bigot.. if she meant Biggun, I did got a uncle Biggun. Them others I don't know, they must be someone else's kin. I know fer a fack, we ain't got no Interlectuals in our fambly....

Clod    Posted 06-17-2004 at 18:37:33       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well Dave ,, You made yours.

Burrhead    Posted 06-17-2004 at 17:56:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
I missed all that Clod.

If ye think ye been prosyletized tho ifn I wuz you I would'nt be out in the hot sun over there at Cleveland tomorry.

I kant answer a question about a pulley or kogs because me and Dick Cheney both firmly believe that the American Kogfitter Movement is in kuhoots with el-kader.

deadcarp    Posted 06-17-2004 at 17:24:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
Depends on the position of the gears at the start of each orbit, the moon phase you're in, holy rollers, what's your sign and how many beerz ya had. BWAhahahaha!! (Snork)

Clod    Posted 06-17-2004 at 18:01:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
For you ,Burrhead and you Dead Carp.Who missed the answer,,You can work on my next project with me..The SUPERCLOCK! This clock is extraordinarily fast. When you get to work it says 8 AM .Before you get your tools out it says 5 PM.

That clock came from...    Posted 06-17-2004 at 19:39:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
the State Highway Department.
Chas in Me

Burrhead    Posted 06-17-2004 at 18:08:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
ifn ye got one that runs backards like that I need to borry it a few days.

Grove r    Posted 06-17-2004 at 18:45:48       [Reply]  [No Email]
Ya jes can't go build that clock like that an' 'spect it work.....ya gotta concider the guessometric value of the radifyer, and the asterior position to the endocreamer...and further along yer gonna HAVE to deal with the override module codefragulator in the hung position in relation to the isignifer jet.... an I just ain't gonna get into the rest of problems yer gonna be shelving this thing till ya can work all the hoonerangs...yea thats them little devils that makes the frlongdifreeger go weep, weep....can't tell ya no least till later.....

~Lenore    Posted 06-17-2004 at 17:06:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well....this is it on page 2; I had to investigate before I gave my answer.
06-17-2004 12:56:56

I reread your post, Clod and realized that the
namecalling you were referring to was not "hayseed" or
any such abuse, but "Jingoists, prosyletizers and
bigots". I can only speak for myself but I have seen
examples of all three behaviours. As I said before, I
also realize that people come in all shapes and sizes
from all corners of the earth and there is no one group
that is immune to such behaviour.

06-17-2004 13:33:32

I am sure everyone else knew what we were being called, but I needed to check those big unfamiliar words out. I was familiar with prosyletize and bigot, but thought I would refresh my memory on them, and see what the official definition was, too.
Jingoists belligerent nationalism: zealous patriotism expressing itself especially in hostility toward other countries

prosyletizers try to convert somebody: to try to convert somebody to a religious faith or political doctrine

bigots intolerant person: somebody who has very strong opinions, especially on matters of politics, religion, or ethnicity, and refuses to accept different views

Well now I know! I guess patriotism is Jingoism cause I have not observed any hatred of other countries. I have seen opposing views on religion but not prostelitizing, I think we all know we probably will not change anyone's faith of lack there of.

As far as that very general definiton of bigots; I suspect we can all fit in it somewhere because it seems if we have "strong" opinions on politics, religion or ethnicity we are. However we seem to be able to share the message board with people who disagree with us.

What do you think?

cLOD    Posted 06-17-2004 at 17:14:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
lENORE,, Thanks.. I didnt know all those words because I hate working crossword puzzles.

Bob/Ont    Posted 06-17-2004 at 17:11:37       [Reply]  [No Email]
That's fine Lenore but what did Paula say about the ballancer shafts?
Later Bob

Paula    Posted 06-18-2004 at 05:49:12       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Heck I don't even know what a balancer shaft is.


Bob/Ont    Posted 06-18-2004 at 07:40:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
Don't let the name fool you Paula, they are actually quite unballanced. Is that fence to keep animals in or out?
Later Bob

~Lenore    Posted 06-17-2004 at 17:15:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
I dont think she mentioned them;
probably thought we would not understand if she did cause she uses those big words. LOL
Just a woofin ya, Paula!!
( That is Clod lingo, he can translate if you need it)

Bob/Ont    Posted 06-17-2004 at 17:04:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
The same number of turns as the number of teeth on the idler gear the goes between the crank and the oil pump drive gear.
Later Bob

Clod    Posted 06-17-2004 at 17:09:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
I dont know if you aree right .I bet you are..But I only remember the number for that very engine. Many years ago my boss and I overhauled his.We had a hard time finding one guy at Caterpiller in Houston who knew the answer..But the number of teeth on that one I dont know,I know the exact number of turns.Ill save it for later.

Bob/Ont    Posted 06-17-2004 at 17:24:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
Clod the cam gear has twice the # of teeth as the crank gear and the oil pump and ballancer drive gear has half the # of teeth as the crank gear. Every cycle/2 turns of the crank the cam goes around once and the ballancers 4 times. The idler gear has an odd number of teeth and I really don't know exactly how many turns it would take to get the marks on it back in line. Just took a guess. You just need any piston on TDC and the ballancer weights even and locked with a bolt then push the gear up and bolt up the bearing support. Then don't forget to take the lock bolts out. If you don't get it right it will shake the dozer cyls off the hard nose or the engine could blow up. It's a D339, 5 and 3/4 Bore 4 cyl
Later Bob

Clod    Posted 06-17-2004 at 17:33:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
You are correct Bob Ont! The answer in numbers are 36 revolutions, I never forgot because we pulled the pan twice before we found the man with the right answer.To us in need of information he was the smartes guy in Houston though he looked like a redneck the educated ones did not know,He did..There was a dumb pilot from Oklahoma who said,,Take an educated man out of the field he was educated in and you have the worlds biggest fool. But ..I now crown you Mr Bob Ont,,The interlectial of the country board, You get every one right pal.

Bob/Ont    Posted 06-17-2004 at 17:45:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
AARRRUGG! you mean you lined up the marks that you could see when you put the pump back on Clod. Lucky you saved it. A guy I worked with for years was up at ALERT working on a big genset there. A couple of army mechanics where putting an old D7 pump back on. Norm said "Besure to get the ballancers timed right". They said "Mind your own buisness. We know what we are doing". The next time Norm went buy there was a rod hanging out the side of the engine. Our TAX dollars AT WORK.
Later Bob

Grove r    Posted 06-17-2004 at 18:09:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
Ya know...This realy rips me a new one.....every time somethin' inneressin happens on this here four-um...I miss out!!!!! can't somebody let me know whuts goin down, an' when?????.....

Cearealy....don't fret none with these psuedo intelects.....the true "brains are guys like Bob/Ont...he can tell you more about the insides of a Cat than any factory boy want to know about building stuff from nothing and improvising??? ask want to know about operating heavy equipment??? ask Toolman, he's operated more stuff than the average person has ever seen....and what about ole Burrhead??? he can probably set ya straight on more farm stuff and such then ten innerlecs.....yeah... and what about yourself, Clod??? toss that stinger with some cx 90 in it to an intelect and see if he knows what to do with it.....we're all intelects in our own right...but tellee somethin' we can sure yank the chain on the "real" ones......have a gooder, R.E.L.

New-Gen    Posted 06-17-2004 at 21:34:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well I hate to get into this and start blowing my own horn, but if anybody want's to know how to grow a crop of corn, or wheat, or soybeans, and keep 20-30 something equipment running to plant and harvest it, just send em' here!

Clod    Posted 06-17-2004 at 17:53:33       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yes,,My boss knew the engine was viberating too much so he came and got me to help. After helping that once, I said let's go to the Cat place and find an older man who knows the trick.We had luck because the younger ones didnt even know there was a balancer to time. I learned fast that there is always some person who knows some things I dont,My present boss/nephew has not learned this lesson good enough yet.

Bob/Ont    Posted 06-17-2004 at 17:59:40       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Clod did you read what I told you to do with the D8 Brakes a page or two back? Might help to have that up your sleeve incase he climbes the learning curve quickly and wants it fixed. If you can't find it Email me.
Later Bob

Clod    Posted 06-17-2004 at 18:06:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yes Bob Ont..Lenore and I understood everything you said.She said he makes sense ,He has the answer,,So I told my boss..He got mad..Nobody knows more than my boss. He said Its not leaking! But I put 15 gallons of fluid in the trans. He saw me adding it often. He says ,,Nothings wrong..Well you can help people,,But you cant help fools..Ill lok for your e mail here Thanks Bob!

Clod Snob    Posted 06-17-2004 at 19:16:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well,, I guess you hicks have a cornfild to plow in the morning..You know those big city interlectials cant grow food? We need to get their food ready to ship..So jump in those cribs and get some sleep! Nite yall!

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