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Independence Day Soon
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Old John    Posted 06-25-2004 at 07:24:20       [Reply]  [Send Email]

Hi Y'all

The Fourth of July is right around the
corner.
Yup, Our INDEPENDENCE DAY, YEAH!
Next weekend.

So here's a thing or 2 to help y'all
get ready. Hope this works.

http://wilstar.com/holidays/july4.htm


http://www.wtv-zone.com/cal555/10fwd/lady/LLa/LL.html

http://www.cyberfireworks.com/grandcanyon.htm

I couldn't figure out how to send the hot-links,
but those will get you there, I think.
Lots more out there, for the looking.

'Til Later............
Old John


screaminghollow    Posted 06-25-2004 at 09:15:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
Just an Observation for the fourth. The Declaration of Independence, the document we celebrate, is not the law of the US. In fact, the last time a state decided that the federal government was not responsive to the needs of its people and tried to become independent, a great war broke out. The last time a group of people felt they should excercise their right to independence, the feds called them extremists, surrounded their camp and laid siege to them until they came out, (remember the Montanna Freemen) The reason that you always here that such folks are wanted for firearms laws violations, is in part, due to the fact that once you advocate independence, you have renounced allegiance to the US and under the US laws, are no longer entitled to own or possess a firearm. In effect, main stream Americans are told by the government that such folks are extremist, gun law violators and therefore, most of the US doesn't care. So, come the fourth, don't talk about your "inalienable rights" or you may be next on the list of folks being watched by the gov't.
Also, remember that the skirmish on Lexington Green back in the 1770's was caused when the government tried to seize an illegal cache of arms from a private militia.
While we celebrate the freedoms allegedly won in the revolutionary war, remember that if you exercise your first amendment right to advocate establishment of a new government, you'll lose your second amendment right as a citizen, to keep and bear arms even though the "right of the citizens to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Seems you can lose one right by excercising another.


another observation    Posted 06-25-2004 at 10:47:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
you may be right in your opinion, but I kind of wonder what kind of mess we would end up with if all that wanted to split into fractional groups, could. Seems like that is part of the problem in some of the other countries no centralized government. Ours may not be the best, and it moves slowly, but it does work. Do you actualy think hundreds of splinter groups scattered around is a good thing? How can anyone not swear allegiance to the country they are living in? Freedom is not free, no matter what one may think just a thought
RET


Clod    Posted 06-25-2004 at 15:04:56       [Reply]  [No Email]
We are independent for sure.Individualist to be exact..But look at what has been accomplished in industry and technology.Look at the list of inventors.We aint done bad brothers.


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