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Social Security..Long but Intresting
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Gene SC    Posted 06-26-2004 at 16:46:04       [Reply]  [No Email]
Love him or loath him, he nailed this one right on the head.............

By Rush Limbaugh:

I think the vast differences in compensation between victims of the
September 11 casualty and those who die serving the country in Uniform are
profound. No one is really talking about it either, because you just don't
criticize anything having to do with September 11. Well, I just can't let
the numbers pass by because it says something really disturbing about the

entitlement mentality of this country. If you lost a family member in the
September 11 attack, you're going to get an average of $1,185,000. The range
is a minimum guarantee of $250,000, all the way up to $4.7 million.

If you are a surviving family member of an American soldier killed in action
the first check you get is a $6,000 direct death benefit, half of which is
taxable.

Next, you get $1,750 for burial costs. If you are the surviving spouse, you
get $833 a month until you remarry. And there's a payment of $211 per month
for each child under 18. When the child hits 18, those payments come to a
screeching halt.

Keep in mind that some of the people who are getting an average of $1.185
million up to $4.7 million are complaining that it's not enough. Their
deaths were tragic, but for most, they were simply in the wrong place at the
wrong time. Soldiers put themselves in

harms way FOR ALL OF US, and they and their families know the dangers.

We also learned over the weekend that some of the victims from the Oklahoma
City bombing have started an organization asking for the same deal that the
September 11 families are getting. In addition to that, some of the families
of those bombed in the embassies are now asking for compensation as well.

You see where this is going, don't you? Folks, this is part and parcel of
over 50 years of entitlement politics in this country. It's just really sad.
Every time a pay raise comes up for the military, they usually receive next
to nothing of a raise. Now the green machine is in combat in the Middle East
while their families have to survive on food stamps and live in low-rent
housing. Make sense?

However, our own U.S. Congress just voted themselves a raise, and many of
you don't know that they only have to be in Congress one time to receive a
pension that is more than $15,000 per month, and most are now equal to being
millionaires plus. They also do not receive Social Security on retirement
because they didn't have to pay into the system.

If some of the military people stay in for 20 years and get out as an E-7,
you may receive a pension of $1,000 per month, and the very people who
placed you in harm's way receive a pension of $15,000 per month.

I would like to see our elected officials pick up a weapon and join ranks
before they start cutting out benefits and lowering pay for our sons and
daughters who are! now fighting.

"When do we finally do something about this?" If this doesn't seem fair to
you, it is time to forward this to as many people as you can.If your
interested there is more.......................

This must be a campaign issue in 2004. Keep it going.

SOCIAL SECURITY: (This is worth the read. It's short

and to the point.)

Perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during election years. Our
Senators and Congressmen do not pay into Social Security. Many years ago
they voted in their own benefit plan. In more recent years, no congress
person has felt the need to change it. For all practical purposes their plan
works like this:

When they retire, they continue to draw the same pay until they die, except
it may increase from time to time for cost of living adjustments. For
example, former Senator Byrd and Congressman White and their wives may
expect to draw $7,800,000 - that's Seven Million, Eight Hundred Thousand),
with! their wives drawing $275,000.00 during the last years of their lives.

This is calculated on an average life span for each.

Their cost for this excellent plan is $00.00. These little perks they voted
for themselves is free to them. You and I pick up the tab for this plan.

The funds for this fine retirement plan come directly from the General
Fund--our tax dollars at work! From our own Social

Security Plan, which you and I pay (or have paid) into -- every payday until
we retire (which amount is matched by our employer) --we can expect to get
an average $1,000 per month after retirement. Or, in other words, we would
have to collect our average of $1,000 monthly benefits for 68 years and one
month to equal Senator Bill Bradley's benefits!

Social Security could be very good if only one small change were made . And
that change would be to jerk the Golden Fleece Retirement Plan from under
the Senators an Congressmen. Put them into the Social Security plan with the
rest of us and then watch how fast they would fix it.

If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and
maybe good changes will evolve. WE, each one of us... can make a difference


jfky    Posted 06-27-2004 at 03:17:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
Rush is a muck stirer who creates issues that pander to his benefit. Plus he is a huge hypocrit that is in drug rehab and going through a divorce. Not someone I would model my life after nor take advice from. Not saying this issue is not valid.


Burrhead    Posted 06-26-2004 at 17:31:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
Gene in one form or the other that same *Rush* info has been circulating several times for awhile now.

It turns out to be bogus.


RN    Posted 06-26-2004 at 18:57:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
Burrhead: Interesting site, seems fairly credible- noticed it had a entry on weapons of mass destruction in Iraq - Democrat politicians statements prior to Bush attack under UN resolution 1441, Dems didn't say where he got them -inferences saddam was developing them in house. RN


Clod    Posted 06-26-2004 at 17:10:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
Just before the OK City bombing ,The average citizen was having a say in who goes to Washington.They were electing ordinary folks who had worked for their bread.The newsmedia was concerned as was the crooks up there in office .There was a change on the horizon and there was a large number of veterans involved.But it all went up in the smoke at Oklahoma City.


~Lenore    Posted 06-26-2004 at 17:03:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
ditto

It is enough to make a tax payer sick!
I think they should all join the real world;draw SS.
Then we could take all their retirement money we'd save and put it in SS fund!!

...Or maybe I will just run for the Senate......


deadcarp - fund?    Posted 06-26-2004 at 19:31:56       [Reply]  [No Email]
What "fund"? Social security pays current claims from current taxes. It's not like other retirement funds where they must place the money in a trust and dole it out per claims - Social Security HAS NO funds. :)



Clod    Posted 06-26-2004 at 17:13:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
Dont run too fast,,I have been there,,They get nervous. We will draw Social Security,,They will draw social skeerdy


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