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Navel piercing
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Emily    Posted 07-01-2004 at 15:10:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
I have been thinking about piercing my navel for sometime. I recently read on the internet that navel piercings could lead to chronic disorders such as MS. Please help me find out if this is true. I want the piercing but I am very afraid of what I have read.

thank u

dogbardave    Posted 07-02-2004 at 00:24:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
Sounds like you're asking non-western "medical" information/advice. It certainly looks like there have been plenty of appropriate 'western medicine' answers impact....keep it clean, avoid radioactive material (I added that one) etc.

Someone mentioned 'chi,' which was one thing I had thought of...magnetic forces, other mystical/eastern forces acting on your body because of this 'acupuncture' invasion, etc., have you checked out other non-traditional medicine boards and asked them what they feel? As you likely know, you'll find a cornicopia of opinions, depending upon the flavor of mystical medicinal approaches (herbs/visions/ reflexology/glowing body parts, etc.).

You might find more experts on your specific question there to your satisfaction. I have no links...if you are at a loss, start from "Google" for your research. I bet you hvae the grey matter to do a lot of that research! :-)

If you do that, post back and let us know...sounds like we're at a loss here. I'm sure we'd be interested in what they'd/you have to say.

We're certainly not a homogoneous group here in a lot of ways (politics/geography/philosophy/religion/edumacation level/professions...seems the common thread here is that we posses an intense love for either living in, promoting, or protecting the many benefits of living in the Country. And that ain't bad.

take care,

Sid    Posted 07-01-2004 at 20:26:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
I am no medical expert. I am 55 years old a father and a grandfather. I have never known or heard of any life threatning disease being caused by having one's navel pierced. I am sure you are aware that the navel can be a difficult area to keep clean. Well piercing it and putting a forieng object in it can make it more difficult and it can lead to something serious. Any infection ( and there will be infection] has the possibility of being deadly. I walked into a store one day and there was a young lady who went to school with my daughter and just barely has the essientals coverd and there it was a nasty looking swollen infected mess. That was hard to ignore. Being a busy body I suggested she have a doctor or at least aske her mother to help her clean it. I think she was closer to being a sick young lady than she realized. The infection would not clear up until she removed it. Even though it seems simple be careful as it can have serious results.

Alias    Posted 07-01-2004 at 20:20:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
My first thought was to treat this like a political topic. But, I'm compelled to render my 2 cents worth.

I do not have any tatoos or body piercings. Reason being, I always liked myself just the way I am. I know that I'm nothing special when it comes to looks. But, having a ear, nose and/or belly button ring is not going to make me look any better. But, Emily, if you think having your navel pierced will draw people to you and thereby electrify your world, by all means, call in the drillers. Have as many holes as you can live with. get a few in your cheeks and no less than ten in each ear. Just do whatever it takes to make you feel better about yourself. But, let me warn you, when it's said and done, you won't like yourself any better then than now. Just my honest opinion. .......gfp

Alias    Posted 07-01-2004 at 20:57:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
And did I, nevah mind

deadcarp    Posted 07-01-2004 at 18:48:28       [Reply]  [No Email]
Emily, even though mine's no prime example, our bodies are quite an assembly. Compare it to manmade things and they look pretty crude. Computers don't last long, then the technology renders them useless. You can pay a fortune for a new car that has adjustable everything, but it rusts out in what -6 years? Untreated wood lasts 3 years outdoors, treated lasts 7, and a good house will maybe last a lifetime. Nearly all our edibles have a short shelf-life. But without any special effort on our part outside of throwing an endless variety of fuel in, because of the way we're made, we can carry around and thrive in a salt-water environment, yet our skin protects us from the myriad everyday threats of a fresh-water environment in the great outdoors. Yet at the same time we play host to millions of colonies of tiny creatures, some of which help keep us alive. Nasty things like to enter the body when our skin gets a hole in it. You can do what you like, but so far my skin has been a most faithful servant and i won't tease or abuse it. :)

Emily    Posted 07-01-2004 at 19:45:47       [Reply]  [No Email]
Im not sure what ur getting at with the inanimate objects lasting a short while and why it pertains to chronic illnesses do to piercings......

ron,ar    Posted 07-01-2004 at 18:09:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
Emily, after reading the replies and thinking about it more I want to say something.
First of all...Welcome to this board, we are all (I am sure I speak for most in this) happy you are here.
Second..I think as most of us are probably a little older, we may feel unqualified to address this question except maybe from a parents standpoint.
Third..I thank you for trusting us enough to come here and ask a personal question of us.
Finally, your question..well, it would not be for me, but I do have a 29 yr old daughter that has one (thinks I don't know). A navel ring is not nearly as offensive as one in a lip or nose or eye. Just my opinion you understand. One thing about it, it ain't like a tattoo, you can remove whenever you want I think.
As far as the health issue..thats the part I am totally unqualified to answer but you are smart to be asking questions and to be condsidering consequences beforehand.
Again, welcome, post here anytime, we are glad you came by.

Emily    Posted 07-01-2004 at 18:34:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
Ron,ar-I really really appreciate your answer, thank u very very much, I completely agree that it is something that is very easy to reverse. I am still afraid of this whole acupuncture theory, can it cause chronic illnesses or not? Thank u again for your warm welcome and answers.

Pitch    Posted 07-01-2004 at 17:42:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
Emily,Gonna have to sound like a dad here.
#1 How old are you? If you are under 18 your folks need to have the final word on this.
I will say that a navel piercing is one of the least offense one you can get. My 15 yr old asked for one and I told here depending on her conduct between now and her 16 birthday she can get one. If she doesn't like it out comes the ring and the hole closes up.

Emily    Posted 07-01-2004 at 18:41:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
Once again Im not asking for what other people think im asking for health reasons. THank you

RayP(MI)    Posted 07-01-2004 at 17:40:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
There are a number of cases where people with piercings have been sensitive to the metals used in the ornamentation. They get rashes in places I don't want to talk about here. Best advice, forget it!

Emily    Posted 07-01-2004 at 19:48:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thank u for your help, i will consider that.

Taylor Lambert    Posted 07-01-2004 at 17:26:37       [Reply]  [No Email]
I have a friend that does Tattoo and piercing work, she said that it isnt dangerous if your healthy or around a clean environment. She has a list of certain requirement you must meet before getting a piercing. One is a clean work invironment noneshe wont give a tatoo or piercing to a worker in the poultry business or around any kind of high exposure to bacteria. Cant be pregnant or nursing. She had a customer get a bad staffinfection from a piercing the lady worked inside a meat processing plant where certain bacterias are in a high count. I hope this helps take care Taylor

Emily    Posted 07-01-2004 at 19:47:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
So this chronic illness thing is out of the question? Thank u for your help and research.

Dee in mid MO    Posted 07-01-2004 at 15:36:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
Young Lady - In my opinion, you may consider using your (or your parents') money for much wiser things than to potentially harm your body that could be with you for life. Dee

eg    Posted 07-01-2004 at 15:31:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
here is a link for you. good luck with your decision. eg

Emily    Posted 07-01-2004 at 16:29:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thank u very much for your link. It said nothing about any chronic disorders due to the piercing. The questions were also answered by doctors. The original problem with the piercing and what causes MS is the meridian of your body being disturbed, which causes imbalances, which causes the chronic illnesses. A doctor explains that if you are healthy and if the meridian is disturbed that it will relocate, is this true?

RN    Posted 07-01-2004 at 20:41:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
Piercing problems? 1: Nickel allergy reaction from the metal (stainless steel) ornaments. Can become chronic, affect immune system, get sick a lot. 2: Opening in skin allows bacterial/viral infections to enter body. Both known to happen with ear piercing, more other body piercings, tattoos. Meridians? Statement seems like chi flow paths from Chinese medicine theory, not a western idea, still may have merit- medical practice in use past thousand+ years. Your choice, try to wash up a lot, stay clean. RN.

Emily    Posted 07-02-2004 at 06:45:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thank u so much ur advice helping the most!!!Thats exactly what i was wondering, considering the fact that I live in the USA, should i be worrying about qi energy? I haven't pierced it yet but when i do i will take that into consideration. Thank You so much again.

~Lenore    Posted 07-01-2004 at 16:54:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
Emily, not that I mind; just curious.
Why would you ask a belly piercing question here?
This is a country living board,
seems a little unusal to be asked here.
You care to tell us why you think us country folks would have any pertinent information on the subject.
Do you value our opinions? Just wondering.

Emily    Posted 07-01-2004 at 19:52:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
I value ur opinions greatly, whats wrong with asking here, I live in Kentucky, USA, this is the country i should rightfully ask whatever i please here.

Stormie    Posted 07-01-2004 at 16:57:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
LOL...thats kinda what I was thinking Lenore. I don't mind her asking either. I just wouldn't think that there would be a lot of experts on the topic here.

ron,ar    Posted 07-01-2004 at 17:04:32       [Reply]  [No Email]
I think maybe she might think that she could recieve a more helpful answer here. I know I value advice and answers I get here more than some sites.
BTW I posted this earlier in the week but it did not post.--Hi there Stormie, good to see you post again, long time no see.

Emily    Posted 07-01-2004 at 17:10:36       [Reply]  [No Email]
Im asking here because i trust your answers, if you dont' want me asking then i won't perfectly fine. My friend notified me that you are honest people and will help me, but i see posts about Oprah, so isn' that the same thing?

Kirsty    Posted 07-01-2004 at 17:46:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
I think Emily should have the right to ask whatever she wants, and it's true. Your opinions are very honest and from the heart. I would be flattered that she put the trust in our hands.
Emily- I know you personally and I think that if you have enough skin to support the piercing than go for it, but if an infection starts, then you need to see a doctor and remove the piercing even if it did cost 50 bucks!

~Lenore    Posted 07-01-2004 at 18:40:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
Everyone has the "right" to ask or say anything they wish to. I did not mean to imply she did not. I was curious as to why she chose this message board.
Carry on and forget I even asked!

Emily    Posted 07-01-2004 at 18:36:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
You know what kirsty, thank u very much, but the problem doctors are having, is possible nerve damage, and something having to do with acupuncture, they are saying its like having a permenant acupuncture needle in ur abdomen. Can someone please explain this?

Kirsty    Posted 07-02-2004 at 06:20:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
Isn't acupuncture supposed to relieve stress or pain? :) No, according to the site at the bottom, it is not safe to get the navel piercing because it IS like having an acupuncture needle in your belly button all the time. Now in normal acupuncture, the belly button and areas around it are forbidden territory because if the piercing is is the midline of the navel on the superior or inferior edge of the umbilicus, it can affect the energy flow through the conception vessel meridian, which can cause chronic energy imbalance, and a predisposition to disease like MS.

After reading this, do you really want to take a chance over a silly little belly button ring? ~

~Lenore    Posted 07-02-2004 at 06:42:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
I offered Emily no advice on her navel question.
I did evidently ask an offensive question myself.
I hope you found some helpful information here.
I did a google search on navel piercing after you asked and found quite a lot there.
I did read a little of some but not all of any...

Sid    Posted 07-02-2004 at 07:00:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
Lenore I have read and read the post and for the life of me can I see anything offensive in your question.

dogbardave    Posted 07-02-2004 at 08:20:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
...I kinda figured she was having fun w/us....

when she got the answer she was looking for she "rewarded" the poster. (good dog!)

When not "frownie faces." (bad dog!)

Isnt' that called "behavior modification?"

I agree...    Posted 07-02-2004 at 11:36:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
Good assessment dogbardave. She won't quit until she hears what she wants to hear, rather than asking her doctor. I wonder if she will let her parents read this string... Dee

Emily    Posted 07-02-2004 at 11:57:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
Im 34 years old thank u, i don't "ask my parents" for things anymore. i am not a child thank u

Emily    Posted 07-02-2004 at 09:47:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
Can we get back to the subject please, will this piercing cause chronic problems or not?

Clod    Posted 07-01-2004 at 15:22:59       [Reply]  [No Email]
Oh,,I dont know .Why do this anyway? Are you expecting to get into quicksand and need a tow cable? I could have had tattos while in the Army like a number of the guys did. I figure if I came to this world un decorated then I will go out of it as is. Are you not happy you were equipped properly at birth?

Emily    Posted 07-01-2004 at 18:39:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
A tattoo is not nearly as reversable as a piercing. I am doing it for reasons that people want to hear, im doing it for myself. Its the same as asking should i pierce my ears? No one ever has a problem with that. Im not asking if i should get it because of what other people think, this is for myself.

Aprille the elder    Posted 07-01-2004 at 19:02:22       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Em..Hi! I am a 43 yr old mom of 2 boys ages 15 and 11..When I turned 40 I walked into my fave tattoo parlour and got a nose ring..and BOY did it hurt!! YeeeouCH!! Also had a reaction to the metal that the ring was made of..Stainless steel..possibly better used for cooking? I THINK SO!! Gold has solved the problem and now I wear it all the time. Altho I am not a lil skinny thang I am thinking of getting my navel tattooed and pierced for my 45 birthday..after my gallbladder surgery it looks like an umbrella shape rather than the cute lil hole it I am getting a Sunburst around and about 3 weeks later the piercing..It is all in the planning..
Any good tattooist will tell you the area MAY be sore for 2 mos or less..keep the area very clean and make sure to turn the NOT change it..I have never heard of anyone getting an illness from a piercing unless they didn't take precautions..Good luck and let me know how it goes ok?? Huggs

Emily    Posted 07-01-2004 at 19:36:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
You are the sweetest nicest person i have ever met on this message board, ur youthfull attitude will bring you far. Great job, thank u for being warm and i am sure you are a great mother. I will be sure to tell you all about it. Thanks again

Clod    Posted 07-01-2004 at 18:58:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
If you want my opinion then forget about the thing.If you want to do it then it is your own body who can stop you.If I move to the jungle I might get a bone in my lip like they do..But I do not plan to relocate soon.

Emily    Posted 07-01-2004 at 19:43:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
thanks for the

Aprille..giggling..    Posted 07-01-2004 at 19:04:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
Clod..u and I posted at the same time!! Heeheehee..I must tell the visual on the bone thing babe..AHAHAHA!! The picture..OH MY GOO'NESS!! ROFLMBO!!!!!Thanx for the giggles!!

Clod    Posted 07-01-2004 at 19:12:44       [Reply]  [No Email]

This will be in style soon

Willy-N Great!!    Posted 07-01-2004 at 20:05:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
I love that picture!! I bet that person is in style too. I would sure hate to snag a ring in my Belly Button some day with my pants or a shirt! I do not even wear a wedding band for those reasons but I got a few Tatoos on my upper arms. I get enought hole poked in me slipping with a screw driver. I ain't going to let them put one in for a style reason and hang a ring off it. Mark H.

Aprille    Posted 07-01-2004 at 19:53:10       [Reply]  [No Email] be honest..My youthful attitude gets me absoLUTELY nowheres in New Hampshire but that's ok..That which does not kill us..etc..My boys are good kids and I am THE MOST strictest single parent I know..Don't drink ,drug or smoke..My kids are allowed to color their hair any color they want and dress any way they want as long as they don't drink or drug..And Clod..You know that is a sign of beauty in Uganda right?? I am not real into the whole lip piercing thing to be honest cuz it wears away the enamel on your teeth..I coold not imagine that I would ever want to mess up what I consider a nice smile by attaching a dinner plate to my face..and if anyone saw my cuteness they would understand

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