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To bottle feed or not??
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Griz    Posted 07-03-2004 at 15:41:37       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Yesteday I purchased a beautiful doe out of the Top Gun line. I picked her due to her outstanding qualities that she had compared to others that I saw that day. The owner originally told me that she was about 2 months old and weaned. However, when she checked her books her birthdate was June 1st. Her body size is 50% larger then the other doe's from that same time period.

So, the owner told me that it was conceivable that she was still not entirely weaned yet but that I should not have any real issues. I brought her home and introduced her to my other goats and everything has gone great. She is browsing the grass and eating grass straight from my hand. The question is this. How do I know if she is truly weaned? I have tried giving her a bottle and she sucks for a bit but then stops and fights me. However, she will suck hard if I hold my Nubian down as the Nubian is still in milk. The nubian wants no part of this but it does show that the kid wants the teat.

Any idea's? What specifically should I look for to know whether I even need to supplement with a bottle? Thoughts? Concerns?

Thanks!

Griz


Burrhead    Posted 07-03-2004 at 16:34:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
Griz- To me a one month old is too young to wean. With having said that I would also say that if she's eating dry feed and grass alright I would'nt bottle her. I might give her a cup or 2 a day of Calf Manna or some other high nutrient feed to help her adjust.

Check the almanac and see what sign your area is in. If the sign is in the knee or anywhere below the knee she may well be giving up nursing on her own.

Keep and eye on her a few days to be sure she does'nt start falling off in weight and appearance, and play it by ear.

Every kid is a little different. I have had some boer and nubien to wean themselves by 4 weeks old and then their next sibling to come along would not wean until 8-12 weeks.

I think it boils down more to the nutritional need of the particular kid than to and average for schedule.


Griz    Posted 07-03-2004 at 18:15:23       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Burr, what specifically do you mean by the Almanac and knee's?

I will stop by the feed store and get the calf manna.

What about the water issue? I did put her face down in the water bowl a couple of times so she would know what it is. Will that suffice if I do that couple of times daily until she gets the hang of it?


Burrhead    Posted 07-03-2004 at 18:50:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
They may have an almanac at the feedstore. Every feedstore around me has them available for free.

They are not quackery or voodoo as some ignorant of the fact folks would lead you to believe.

The almanac link I put in for you has an "Astrological Best Days Timetable" link over on their right border, it has a list by date of the best days to do whatever farm activity going by moon signs.

The moon being in the *foot* sign is best for weaning but anywhere from the knee down is alright.

I don't stick the kids nose in water. It won't hurt anything if you do but I get quicker results to just hold their head near water and use my hand as a dipper for them.

Goats like room temp water better than cool or cold water and that goes double for kids. Just be patient with the wee ones.


RN    Posted 07-03-2004 at 19:20:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
Feed? Be patient with wee ones? Especially when they find the 1/2 bag of chicken feed in back of pickup, find the garden fence has a hole big enought to stick head through but won't let horns back out, work the whole body under pasture fence to nibble ditch weeds next to traffic, climb onto shed roof and beller - won't come down. As long as their moving, nibbleing and aggravating- their OK. RN


Burrhead    Posted 07-03-2004 at 19:27:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
that aint no lie. that's why I said be patient.


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