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Septic Tank/TP ?
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DJ    Posted 04-01-2002 at 06:01:59       [Reply]  [No Email]
OK, We started a new habit of placing our TP in a covered trash bin to spare the traffic in the septic tank. As a camper, we bought the quick biodegradible TP but it's more expensive.

Is it worth the effort to do this or does it matter?

And one more question.........

This is yucky, I know but:

Is there any benefit if I place this used paper in the compost bin?

(I'll ask anything)

LOL


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Danny in CO    Posted 04-01-2002 at 13:56:27       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I wouldn't worry about the TP in the septic. The main thing with septic systems is to make sure the bacteria action is working. There is a product called RidX sold at Wall Mart. I pour a bottle in my toilet each month and it keeps the action going.


Danny in CO    Posted 04-01-2002 at 13:56:27       [Reply]  [No Email]


DJ - whats wrong wit yer thinkin? stinkin.    Posted 04-01-2002 at 13:11:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
Let me jus tell ya that folks who publically admit to saving used toilet paper in a bag might continue havin trouble adjustin to the country & its ways... Ya posted that ya had horses, right? Well rub up against 'em till ya get some sense.
Man oh man - what a hoot. Can't believe an adult would ever think thata way.


DJ - whats wrong wit yer thinkin? stinkin.    Posted 04-01-2002 at 13:11:50       [Reply]  [No Email]


Ludwig    Posted 04-01-2002 at 15:39:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
I remember once when my cousins rented
some little cottage someplace what came
with all sorts of rules. Can't put tp down the
toilet, can't spit toothpaste down the sink, can't
wash any kind of meat in the sink, can't put
any meat in the oven what doesn't have tinfoil
over the pan.
I have a friend here at work that has some
similar wierd ideas. What happens is some
"expert" talks to the parents who instill the
idea in the kid. The problem is that things like
that get engrained as "just right" and are hard
to break. I bet everybody's got some thoughts
like that, but country folk tend to believe more
in what they see and experience rather than
what the "experts" tell them.


Ludwig    Posted 04-01-2002 at 15:39:02       [Reply]  [No Email]


DJ    Posted 04-01-2002 at 15:37:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well no one ever said i was dull.


DJ    Posted 04-01-2002 at 15:37:40       [Reply]  [No Email]


DULL NO : VERBOSE: Oh yeah.    Posted 04-01-2002 at 16:33:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
let go of my ear


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DJ    Posted 04-01-2002 at 17:22:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
What does verbose mean?

Hmmm let me go look real quick............


adj : using or containing too many words; "long-winded (or windy) speakers"; "verbose and ineffective instructional methods"; "newspapers of the day printed long wordy editorials"; "proceedings were delayed by wordy disputes.........

Yep, that's me alright. LOL

But again, no one calls me dull.


DJ    Posted 04-01-2002 at 17:22:27       [Reply]  [No Email]


DJ    Posted 01-28-2004 at 10:32:41       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I'm dull


DJ    Posted 04-01-2002 at 17:24:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
Come to think of it. I think I've talked too much.

I'll pipe down for a while.

Sorry.


Kathy    Posted 04-01-2002 at 07:20:14       [Reply]  [Send Email]
If the toilet paper is just contaminated with urine it won't hurt your compost.But if ALL tp is included in the compost you run the risk of health related problems if you use the compost on vegetables. We have a composting toilet & although it makes great compost the manufacturer warns to use the compost only on shrubs,trees & other places where food production & possible contamination may occur.
There's a great book you may be able to get at the library called the 'Humanure Handbook' which goes into the possible diseases associated with compost that contains human fecal waste. The same thing applies for putting dog or cat feces in the compost pile. Too much can transmit diseases to humans.
Hope this helps
Peace, Kathy


ellen    Posted 09-16-2008 at 09:15:19       [Reply]  [Send Email]
just bought a cabin that the previous people put a huge plastic barrel in the outhouse john that had a big garbage bag so you could pull the waste up to get rid of it.couldnt keep odor down so we pulled the bag out and put a bunch of holes in the barrel.still has some odor wondering if rid-x powder will do the trick.we tried lime and it didnt help alot.


ellen    Posted 09-16-2008 at 09:15:19       [Reply]  [No Email]


Ludwig - Humanure    Posted 04-01-2002 at 09:10:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
The humanure handbook is online!
I'm giving serious thought to what it says.
Note: I'm by no means "Super green" or a
"granola eater" but it does seem like a waste
to flush our manure down the drain when we
could compost it.
Like Kathy says it can be dangerous, but done
right (and it don't look hard) it can be of great
benefit.
I'm thinking this summer to convert the stinky
old outhouse at the camp/farm since its full
and needs work anyway.


Kathy    Posted 04-01-2002 at 21:24:50       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Thanks Ludwig, I didn't realize the book was online. Now I won't have to go find the Humanure book each time I have a new question. I think I have too many books, sometimes it's hard to find one when I need it. :)
Peace, kathy


Salmoneye    Posted 04-01-2002 at 09:37:39       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Dunno bout anywhere else, but here in VT It is still a twice a year chore to hook the, um, 'S#$% Boat' up to the Farmall and drag it into the garden and dump it. The boat needs to be made of a dense rot resistant wood such as hickory.
After dumping, the boat is hosed out and replaced, and the 'humanure' is disced in with a bag of lime spread on top. Spring ya do it a month or more before planting and fall you do it after harvest.

There is always a bucket of Ag Lime sitting in the outhouse and every once in a while ya dump a scoop on top of the pile down below when you are done 'doin your business'.

My sister has a two holer...and I am the proud owner of a three holer complete with electricity and wainscotting...Not that ya get much company these days...

;-)


DJ    Posted 04-01-2002 at 11:21:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
This is an awesome find. Thanks for the link!

I know in Europe they don't have a problem with placing their sewage on their fields.

We lived there for almost three years and the farmers take out a tank full of it and spread it over the fields.

I ate lots of their good food!


Ludwig - well...    Posted 04-01-2002 at 13:33:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
I've eaten alot of beef fed off hay off of sludge
spread fields, and I'm find, er fin, err fine.
I've never uhh, cleaned out an outhouse
before. We usually just pick the dang thing up
and move it over a couple feet onto a fresh
hole. We've only got a one holer, but its a
small camp.


Ludwig - well...    Posted 04-01-2002 at 13:33:29       [Reply]  [No Email]


Salmoneye....LMFHO!!!...long    Posted 04-01-2002 at 18:21:27       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I swear!

And I will have pictures posted of the inside in the AM.

This is not a 'privvy' like ya see in the movies, or most of you are accustomed too. You know...the one that is a good 50 yards from the house on a cold winters night with a new moon cut in the door for light...

My Sisters' is off the end of her 'woodshed' that is connected to the house by two pantrys off the kitchen.
Mine is off the back of the 'garage' which was originally a carriage barn that is 15 yards off the kitchen door for a total 20 yards from my front door.

Guess my point is that here in the North Country a 'facility' was close by the house and a permanent structure. Back in the day, the snow would get so deep that it was not an option to have the privvy a long way's from the house or to have it as a variable location structure.

If a 3 foot kid needed to go in the middle of the night, they either went in a chamber pot under the bed or they just trudged to the outhouse. Last thing you wanted to be doing in the morning was looking for a 3 foot kid in a 4 foot snowbank.

I never saw a 'detached' outhouse till the age of 9 at a deer camp.
Was always afraid that rickety seat would give way and I would be in that hole right quick, so I sat lightly...

;-)


DJ    Posted 04-01-2002 at 15:40:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well all's i got is a turned over outhouse in the pasture.

No hole at all!


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Salmoneye    Posted 04-01-2002 at 06:17:48       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Limit the amount of disinfectants that you put through the septic as this will kill the good bacteria.
Don't worry about the TP.
Add a packet of dry yeast every month or so for added benefits...


Salmoneye    Posted 04-01-2002 at 06:17:48       [Reply]  [No Email]


Thx again and again.    Posted 04-01-2002 at 06:46:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
I know what you mean about the cleaning chemicals.

I came off those years ago and use bleach and vinegar for almost everything.

Do you or anyone know what laundry detergent to avoid with a septic system?


Thx again and again.    Posted 04-01-2002 at 06:46:55       [Reply]  [No Email]


CJC    Posted 04-02-2002 at 20:05:38       [Reply]  [No Email]
Stay away from that BLEACH, there is nothing that will kill bacteria faster than bleach. You are "supposed" to not use powdered detergents because the filler in them rise to the top of the tank out through the distribution box and into the leach field where they cake up and clog the lines.

There is enough bacteria in you to not warrant the use of the RID EX, I used to buy it til I found out it is not necessary, Though I don't think it will hurt. That paper is going to be one of the first things to go when in that tank, there are a lot of other ...er things to worry about......be sure that no "sewer mice" end up in there..this should be explained to all ladies in the gentlest of terms......keep the tobacco out of there, too.......good luck a poopin'


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SEPTIC MAN - best reply yet    Posted 04-03-2002 at 05:02:39       [Reply]  [No Email]
Man, it's folks like you who'll effect my business. I never tell customers this info. How am I going to pay off my new bass boat?


CJC    Posted 04-04-2002 at 19:58:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
Sorry about that. I'll keep my mouth shut next time. Usually I am spewing forth what is your business, at least according to my wife.....



RayP(MI)    Posted 04-01-2002 at 06:11:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
TP is easily dissolved and broken down in a septic system. It's designed to do that. Don't worry, and go ahead and flush! Sptic systems thrive on plenty of water too. You should run sinks, wash water and all down there!


DJ    Posted 04-01-2002 at 06:48:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
And Ray, do you know if the TP is any benefit in the compost bin if we should decide to place it in there?


RAYP(MI)    Posted 04-02-2002 at 10:56:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well, it'll probably add a little nutrient to your compost... Probably won't hurt anything. It's made from wood fibers, and you've seen what happens to paper roadside litter, even plastic coated fast food containers and glossy magazines finally disintegrate. Napkins and kleenex only last a few weeks in the elements. Fer crying out loud, how much tp can you use? Just flush it!


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