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I ain't the sharpest pencil in the box, but...
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Melanie    Posted 07-21-2004 at 17:33:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
If I'm getting the gist of this, what Hawking is saying is that there ain't no 'secret back entrance' into our universe through black holes. When I was a teenager, that theory scared the snot out of me. But what do you make of it?


Dave Munson Mid Illinois    Posted 07-21-2004 at 20:18:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
I still remember the last physics lecture. This was the lecture where I stopped caring. Over the years I thought about it a bit.

There is a thing that exists called a quark. Itsy bitsy little things that make up atoms. Who ever thought them up must have been into drugs. From the description of what drugs do to a person, LSD I think.

Quarks have anti quarks. Quarks have flavors: up, down, charm, strange, top and bottom. There are also other things called leptons and force carriers.

Modern physics say that there are no smaller things in existence than the quarks. If that is so, what happens to quarks in a black hole?

Want to have fun? Do a search for:
quarks "black hole" and read the thoughts of others.

I think they are WRONG. I lied to myself on the test, put the expected answer down and passed the class. That was the last physics class I had.


Alias    Posted 07-21-2004 at 18:40:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
Melanie, You're definately not the dullest pencil.
I think Hawking is. After all, by his own admission, he has been wrong for most of his adult life. According to the article, he spent 29 years thinking about black holes. He now say the celestial vortexes contain traces of objects and on occossion spits them out.

Well, I've been knowing that for as long as I can remember. That's where certain unfriendlies come from. But, owing to a pledge I made to Les, I can not give names. Sorry, my lips are zipped and sealed.......gfp


deadcarp    Posted 07-21-2004 at 18:15:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
As with most people who srudy things they'll never see, the guy has a superb creative imagination and i'm sure we're blessed to catch glimpses of it. Problem was - the way he HAD described black holes would necessarily warp some of the physics laws on which it was built. Some dismissed his theory all along. So this makes more sense.


Off the work momentarily, i'm a bit apprehensive about his longevity if he's in a hurry to get his house in order now. Why the apparent urgency? Has this problem humanized him? brought him down a peg? highlited his fallability? which highlites other things? discouraged a new path? did he have a chat with his physician? Guess it would be silly of me to ask "What does he know that we don't?" I mean cmon! :)




Isaac Asimov    Posted 07-21-2004 at 18:08:32       [Reply]  [No Email]
Actually it was "The Mule" who put those ideas in Hawking's mind to begin with. Go back and read the "Foundation Triology" sir and you will agree.


oops    Posted 07-21-2004 at 18:10:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
that post was meant for Fawteen, sorry about that Melanie.


Dave Smith    Posted 07-21-2004 at 18:00:05       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hmm, I read his book. I got the idea that black holes were the end of the begining, and when the universe had recolapsed it would generate another Big Bang. Hense another beginning, and black holes were significant part of that.
Not to worry though. That won't happen for a fiew billion years.
Dave <*)))><


deadcarp    Posted 07-21-2004 at 18:22:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
My favorite analogy is that we're like an ant colony alongside a road - aren't aware when the grader's coming, or aardvark, or the next flood, never even imagined a town with buildings and machinery and schedules. Best plan is to take good care of the eggs. With that in mind, i'd be shocked to hear an ant ask "Which big bang?" :)




Fawteen    Posted 07-21-2004 at 17:40:59       [Reply]  [No Email]
I think I'm WAY too ignerant to even form an opinion.


Clod    Posted 07-21-2004 at 18:15:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
Two big U proffessors say >>> He's running away from what we still believe." <<<<<<<<<< I am happy Mr Hawkings is honest enought to admit he was wrong.
God wont change the Bible to suit science or be popular..So I believe Gods version. This is not the way to win popularity but what is the price we pay to be popular.


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