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The American Dream
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Josef    Posted 02-20-2001 at 10:03:28       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Can you explain me what is the American Dream ?
Tahnks for your answers.
Josef from Germany


tomatolord    Posted 02-21-2001 at 08:34:25       [Reply]  [Send Email]
The american dream is an individual dream shaped by the foundings of our country

Moslty in my opinion, it is the freedom to dream and then the freedom to pursue that dream

to me it is

To be true to who I am and to uphold my values, god and country
To provide for my family
To raise and nuture the next generation
To protect and nuture those that cant
To provide a path for the next generation to follow

How we get there is our own path

My aunt lived her dream to raise a family so that they may have a place in this world, even though she did it while on welfare and with a husband that left her with 4 kids

One of the most profound things that hit me is this one...

Oliver Wendell Holmes was a supreme court justice of the U.S and very well known.

His son Oliver Wendell Holmes - was a world renowned poet

Both were able to pursue their American dream to be true to themselves.

I think that is what really makes america great and that other countries will never really catch on

People are generally given the freedom here to go be what they want to be. Parents to a degree want their children to be "something" but you do not find the generational limits imposed by society.

My great grandfather was a coal miner in PA
Dad worked for the phone company
Me I work in computers

There is always a path up here in the U.S.

Later


IHank    Posted 02-20-2001 at 13:59:48       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Josef- As the others say here the American Dream is a little different for each person. It depends a lot on where the person came here from and his cultural values and old world oriented expectations, with immigrants. With each generation after and the passing of time and maturation of the USA, the dream changes on an individual basis.

Check the link below and read for yourself founding documents for the US of A. There's lots of information at that website so take your time and browse and ponder it all. Hope this helps, IHank


Gary Pezz    Posted 02-21-2001 at 04:43:03       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Josef - The American Dream is the ability to dream big thoughts, make big plans, think wide and broad about ANYTHING that you choose AND the individual freedom to create that individual vision into reality with your own work, will and determination and with minimal restrictions from Governments.


IHank    Posted 02-21-2001 at 07:44:56       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Josef- Check out the link below for lots of information about how to make it work. Thank you for being interested, IHank


Mudcat49    Posted 02-22-2001 at 05:32:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hank:
After reading about the Libertarian Party, I guess that I am a libertarian. BUT: The Liberal Democrat party is so strong to stop them from gaining the white house for 4 more years I had to vote Bush in the last election, I don't know what to do, the Lib. party is not strong enough at this time to keep the liberals from ruining this country. hopefully in the future it will be.


IHank    Posted 02-22-2001 at 07:50:19       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Mudcat49- The political winds are shifting... It looks like the people are having a hard time getting thru denial about the Clinton regime and lots of bad behaviour. Now that they don't have the power of the Presidency to "spin" things and intimidate critics and whistle blowers, we might be in for a period of delayed outrage.

The pardons story seems to get worse on a day to day basis. Now that the "spin" power is gone it seems the deals with the Chinese are gonna come back and haunt everybody.

If it keeps up the Democrat party will suffer big time, starting in the next national election. Eventually people and organizations like that self destruct. All I know is to argue for your beliefs and vote your conscience, then hope for the best. IHank


Dave in Mo    Posted 02-21-2001 at 04:31:14       [Reply]  [Send Email]
IHank,
Thanks for the netlink. Reading these tends to put reality back into a lot of outside personal interpretations of what our Rights really are.


Redbelly1    Posted 02-20-2001 at 11:55:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
Good question, Josef. I doubt many Americans have even thought about it.

To me the American dream is being able to set my own goals in life and have the liberty to pursue them.
But along with that liberty comes responsibility; something that, i'm afraid, is overlooked these days.



F14    Posted 02-20-2001 at 11:31:36       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well, there are variations on it, depending on how old you are.

For those of us in our 50's, it meant doing well enough financially to own your own home, a decent car and make a comfortable living, and be able to send your kids to a good college.

Somewhere in the 1980's it became "Make an insane amount of money, own your own company, and live a life of conspicuous consumption."

The 90's version is much the same, except instead of being a lawyer, stock broker or doctor making money by working for it, the "dream" was to start up a dot.com company, and make an obscene amount of money by fleecing investors while sitting on your fat behind.

I'll admit, I'm being somewhat sarcastic, but that truly is the flavor of it.


Josef    Posted 02-20-2001 at 10:05:42       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Can you explain me what is the American Dream ?
Thanks for all your answers !
Josef from Germany


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