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Why do sooooooooo many men hate
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steve19438    Posted 07-29-2004 at 06:10:07       [Reply]  [Send Email]
strong WIMMEN?
lady bird, betty ford, ros carter, hillary and now ms. kerry. i find nuthin wrong with women who are not afraid of the men's.!
pat nixon deserved better. nancy r., well, uh, i won't go there.


ron,ar    Posted 07-29-2004 at 15:09:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
There ain't a nickels difference between Lady Bird and Hillary. Neither one scares me, maybe they do you. I don't think your list makes much sense in view of the context of your post. BTW-i notice you keep your zip code close by at all times. Has the post office ever lost your mail?


Redneck    Posted 07-30-2004 at 02:53:21       [Reply]  [No Email]
The two old bats are about the same, except the Hildebeast is a newer model. Johnson's clan was the reason that the war in nam went on so long. Clinton is even more crooked.


Gunner    Posted 07-29-2004 at 11:44:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
Oh, that's soooooo sad.... as long as they don't give me the butch face scowl when I open a door for them, they can pump my gas anytime


Alias    Posted 07-29-2004 at 11:01:01       [Reply]  [No Email]
Steve, forgive me. I didn't want to respond but you pushed me into it. The only Republican you named was Betty Ford. A woman whose acholism weakness drove her to rehab. And, all the rest were Democrats.

Could it be you got this whole thing turned around again. Forget this dyed in the wool Democrat/Republican thing and go with the best man for the job. Can't you think on your own??????????gfp


steve19438    Posted 07-29-2004 at 20:38:42       [Reply]  [Send Email]
you probbaly won't believe this but politics had absolutely nuthin to with who i picked. i hadn't even thought of party afilliation until you mentioned it.


r    Posted 07-29-2004 at 10:25:57       [Reply]  [No Email]
Maybe you're confusing strong women with loud mouth power grubbers?
Most of your examples never struck me as strong women.
Hillary certainly is in a league by herself, with or without her husband, well maybe she could team up with Leona Helmsley!
Mrs. Kerry has opinions, and expresses them, that makes her neither strong, nor weak. Only time will tell that.
As for Nancy, we she was no Hillary,(whew!!) but she was strong enough to get her hackles up and say that no one was gonna dump on her Ronnie, not as long as she was alive. Yeah mebbe some inner strength there, that has nothing to do with politics.
I'm not sure what prompted you to ask why men "fear" these women, I don't really see anyone I know cowering in a corner.
Later
Ron


screaminghollow    Posted 07-29-2004 at 10:01:57       [Reply]  [No Email]
Got no problem with outgoing women who speak their minds. Can't stand the yappy whiney closed minded, I'm right about everything types. (like Hillary) It's odd, but I never thought of Lady Bird, Ros Carter or Betty Ford as pushy women.
If you want a real eyeopener, read some of the letters Dolly Madison wrote to her hubby about politics and such. At the time, women were generally considered little more than ignorant property. Dolly was sooooo far ahead of her time. She advocated women votes, etc.


steve19438    Posted 07-29-2004 at 10:10:11       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Lady Bird, Ros Carter or Betty Ford. i didn't say they were "pushy", they spoke their minds.
i used 1st ladies because they get the print, i guess i could have included the likes of ophrah, martha, etc.


screaminghollow    Posted 07-29-2004 at 13:13:41       [Reply]  [No Email]
Don't hear Oprah much, but I can't say I ever heard her say anything real controversial. As for Martha, I don't like her, she is a liar and cheat. But I can't say as I ever heard her say anything controversial either, except about her lying to authorities. Heck Slick Willy got disbarred for lying and perjury and it seems all them Dems don't give a hoot about a President who undermines the legal system and sees no wrong in it. (I didn't care that he had an affair, I care that he, chief law enforcement officer of the land, lied under oath about it)
Now Rosie O' is another thing entirely. I don't care that she likes women, (she couldn't attract a guy) She is another prime example of the yappy, whiney, closed minded, I am right all the time types.
I respect any man or woman capable of holding their own in a debate or intellectual argument. It's the one's who spout whatever idea they like at the time and are incapable of understanding or even listening to an opposing view. Such as Rosie.


steve19438    Posted 07-30-2004 at 10:13:23       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Heck Slick Willy got disbarred for lying and perjury and it seems all them Dems don't give a hoot about a President who undermines the legal system.

just like the republicans didn't give a hoot about NIXON???



Indydirtfarmer    Posted 07-29-2004 at 09:49:15       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Not all men are afraid of strong women. Just the ones that NEED to be afraid. They have an insecurity problem that demands they belittle those around them.
My wife is a "strong woman" Not physical power, but mentally and spiritually strong. She is self reliant, secure in her lot in life, and very much capable of handling ANY job. She works in an environment consisting of mostly men. She does her job as well as any, and better than most.
I don't think women are any different than men in that regard. I see as many WEAK men as I do women. Most of those men just can't stand the thought of a woman being "better" than them at anything. JMHO. John


Gary    Posted 07-29-2004 at 09:10:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
I got nothing against strong women, a good stong woman can operate or help with the operation of a chainsaw, wood splitter, riding or push mower, weed eater, garden tiller, skinning knife, rake, fluff, or bale hay. Keep her house and yard/flowerbeds clean, grow and process vegetables and herbs , sew, keep her man and family fed and happy. Nope ,I got nothing against STRONG women, now them head strong know it alls, well that's a completely different story.


buck    Posted 07-29-2004 at 08:45:04       [Reply]  [No Email]

I think that the Eye Candy aspect of men to women and women to men is Still the dominant aspect of their relationships.


DigitalMat    Posted 07-29-2004 at 07:13:21       [Reply]  [No Email]
I am married to what I consider a strong woman. A woman who is self assured and more of a partner than a slave. She is confident enough in herself she doesn't have to spend time whining about her rights. She honestly thinks white males are getting the shaft in this world these days. We both have things we are better at than the other, we both know and accept what these things are, and that partnership creates a wonderful life. I can't imagine a wife I constantly had to carry because she was shivering and whining all the time. Once, on her own, she saw that her boss had left his lights on his car and run down the battery. Since he had to leave immediately after a meeting he was in, she walked to a nearby garage, borrowed some jumper cables, pulled up our car, and jumpstarted his car. All this in nice dress outfit. He couldn't believe a woman could be so self-sufficient. That is an example of a self assured "strong" woman. By-the-way, she really loves me. Ain't life great?!


SusieQ    Posted 07-29-2004 at 09:50:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
Now that is the kind of reply I like, to read,we are strong in ways that help with our family, maybe not physical, but still strong in the meaning of being there for hubby, children...lets face, some has to be there......good for you.


Stormie    Posted 07-29-2004 at 07:37:33       [Reply]  [No Email]
Perfect example of a true strong woman.


Stormie    Posted 07-29-2004 at 06:45:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
I don't care for them myself. Hillary is not a strong women she is a witch. As far as I am concerned Mr. Kerry needs to shut his wife up. She is loud and is overly aggressive.

I like our first lady. She is graceful and seems kind and polite. Her mother in law was the same way. Very lady like. That's how a lady should be.

I know strong women and trust me they act nothing like these people. They don't have an agenda. They don't need to prove themselves to any man. They know inside that they are just as capable if need be.

I don't see why so many women think they need to prove something.


Stormie


~Lenore    Posted 07-29-2004 at 09:15:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
I agree Stormie.
A real woman "knows her place";
it is what ever "place" she chooses.
An agressive woman is not necessarily a strong woman;
more likely she is an angry woman.
A strong woman can be sweet and kind and gentle;
she can be strong without being masculine.
I believe first lady Laura Bush is a strong woman.
She is also a lady, not all women are ladies.


Les    Posted 07-29-2004 at 15:15:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
A lot of it has to do with their upfetching, I'll betcha.


Stormie    Posted 07-29-2004 at 12:14:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well said Lenore. I agree 100%

Stormie


steve19438    Posted 07-29-2004 at 07:07:29       [Reply]  [Send Email]
so in other words l. bush "knows her place"????


Confused?    Posted 07-29-2004 at 09:05:57       [Reply]  [No Email]
Lets see - you see a controlling woman as strong, and a supportive woman as weak. I wouldn't say that to my 90 year old grandmother. She still cooks with cast iron pans and would clobber ya.


Stormie    Posted 07-29-2004 at 07:49:57       [Reply]  [No Email]
Nothing wrong with knowing your place is there? I know my place as a wife, mother and woman. That does not mean my husband treats me like a slave or mistreats me.



DigitalMat    Posted 07-30-2004 at 00:02:56       [Reply]  [No Email]
Stormie, I agree. My wife's place is with me, and mine is with her. Best friends. I also say that the reason people marry is because it takes two people to make one decent person. She can do things I can't, and I am better at some things. Between us, we get the job of living done. We have never stopped having fun and simply enjoying each other's company. After 20 years, it's like two trees that have grown up intertwined. If you take one out, it will kill the other. You remember that Paul Davis song called "Sweet Life"? That is kind of our song. Neat!


big fred    Posted 07-29-2004 at 07:31:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
She understands that she wasn't elected to the office, her husband was. She also understands her role as chief adviser to the president.


Grove r    Posted 07-29-2004 at 06:56:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
It's the overbearing ones that are intolerable... strong ones without that characteristic are ok, but when they start acting like a D8 outa controle...then it's time ta cut off the fuel.....and that applies to the male of the species, too.....R.E.L.


deadcarp    Posted 07-29-2004 at 08:05:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yeah i'll agree with that - sometimes no matter which secks, you hesitate to encounter a person cuz it'll be just another "leroy" show (or whoever). I'm currently fed up with oprah cuz it might turn into just another edition of "look what i gave away", knowing nobody else can afford to show off that much.

Oh, and if i never see another conventioneer from either party, it'll be way too soon. In this country we elect inept rich people, then every 4 years their speech-writers are obligated to produce for us an even more convincing story. (boy if that wouldn't be a challenge! :)



bulldinkie    Posted 07-29-2004 at 06:27:26       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Dont forget Martha Stewart...


JB    Posted 07-29-2004 at 09:08:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
God bless Martha, and incidentally, those who think women need to 'know their place', answer this: We heard that very phrase over and over about the 1st lady Hillary~~~ NOW, her place is representing her constituents, and still we hear criticism. If she could walk on water, the Hil haters would probably accuse her of having hidden sidewalks! I can't wait for the year she decides to be MRS Pres Hillary!


Stormie    Posted 07-29-2004 at 12:28:42       [Reply]  [No Email]
Lord help us! She is a spineless witch. A good women dosen't need to keep at jack-a$$ around to get herself places.

If she ever runs for Pres. (god forbid) it would be the end of my democratic days.


JB    Posted 07-29-2004 at 13:23:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
You look at her one way, I see her another. I think she was just biding her time, as so many men in politics do, and no one turns a hair! So, different strokes for different folks! I find her strong, articulate, smart and able! I honestly hope she will run some day, but don't actually think she will! )I just threw that in to raise a few hackles.)

I do appreciate differing opinions though, but stay out of politics for the most part. Just couldn't resist saying my say!


Stormie    Posted 07-29-2004 at 14:39:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
That what makes life interesting. It wouldn't have been as fun if you had agreed with me. ;>)

I respect anyone who voices their opinions without having to belittle someone else who does not agreee.

Stormie :>)


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