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Lerkers IP addresses
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Ron/PA    Posted 07-30-2004 at 06:46:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
Just throwing in my 2 worth here. When you start tracing IP addresses, the furthest I have been able to trace any of these is to the ISP.
My Dad, Brother, Niece, and myself all have the same ISP, when we post to a common board, we all show the same IP address.
It just might be something to think about.
Ron


TO35    Posted 07-30-2004 at 12:10:21       [Reply]  [No Email]
Intresting subject of Ip addresses...I have only once tried to search an ip address just to see if that person was who they said it was....the more I thought about it the more I just decided to trust who I was talking or posting too...
The only time I would look for one now would be in the case of a flamer or troll....then again I'd just let the moderator handle it....
I love reading the post here and at YT. I don't take anything personal and try to limit my post to my ability to give good advice or just to brighten someone's day or on ocassion tell a story I think some of you might enjoy. I do consider most of you my friends, some even extended family...and with that being said as always I wish you all a super fantastic day!

ps. it occured to me this might be taken out of context, this is just the way I approach things and not ment to step on anyones toes or hurt anyones feelings

TO....the trusting one...


I'm actually...    Posted 07-30-2004 at 13:04:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
A 14 year old girl living in Russia...

Salmoneye,


bet you    Posted 07-30-2004 at 13:56:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
can play tennis then, all the girls there play tennis you know.
REt


Nope...    Posted 07-30-2004 at 14:30:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
I gymnast...Name 'Nadia'...Vood U lahk to cee mine dismount?

LOL

Salmoneye,


steve19438    Posted 07-30-2004 at 09:59:05       [Reply]  [Send Email]
a classic example of internet "shenanigans" and "posse" justice!


Dave    Posted 07-30-2004 at 06:59:16       [Reply]  [No Email]
Agree Ron. I wasn't throwing rocks at Kelly. Just alerting her that someone might be using her machine.


Kellyb    Posted 07-30-2004 at 07:05:36       [Reply]  [Send Email]
No one is here to use my machine... that's what is
so troubling.. I think someone "out" in cyberspace
is "lerking" me.. now obviousl


r    Posted 07-30-2004 at 07:15:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
No Kelly, it might mean that someone in your geographical area is posting here under the name lerker. It has nothing to do with you, and no one should just assume that it's you. That address isn't assigned to your computer, it assigned to AOL or whoever in your area.
Ron


Stormie    Posted 07-30-2004 at 07:53:57       [Reply]  [No Email]
Your right nobody has the right to assume anything about anybody but lots of us still seem to do it. I just thought it was a little funny that someone posted a message at 19:50 with this IP address and then KellyB posted a message at 20:05 with the same IP address.


Ron/PA    Posted 07-30-2004 at 07:03:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
I understand, but it could also be someone in the same part of the state, using the same ISP and never even know her, or be within miles of her machine.
Ron


Gerrit PR    Posted 07-30-2004 at 07:29:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
The thing with IP addresses works like this( with most internet services providers ):

When you have a dial-up connection, your ISP gives you an IP number from his 'pool'. As long as you stay connected, that IP address is yours and only yours. When you disconnect, that IP number goes back into the pool and is available for new connections through that ISP.

If you have a fixed connection ( like DSL ) then your IP number is yours and always stays the same.

AOL does things different as far as I know.
"The Lerker" had an AOL IP address. AOL works with proxy servers. I don't want to get to technical here, but that means that the IP address that comes with the posting is not unique for one user. Lots of users who connect to the internet via that AOL proxyserver seemingly have the same IP address.

So... there is no way of telling that The Lerker and KellyB are the same person. It could be, but it also could not be.



~Lenore    Posted 07-30-2004 at 07:29:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
The ISP info I got was 205.188.116.73,
location Chappaqua, NY area with 88% certainty.
I do not know if that is anywhere near kellb's area or not.
I just find those type things interesting,
just the detective in me I guess. :-)


Stormie    Posted 07-30-2004 at 07:50:57       [Reply]  [No Email]
I found that same thing Lenore. Since Kelly dosen't live in New York it makes it even more interesting.


~Lenore    Posted 07-30-2004 at 08:03:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
yes it is a puzzle; and those are challenging. LOL
Like Gerritt PR said, I thought you got
the assigned IP# when you went on line
and it would not change unless you got off line.
Then when you came back on line you
more than likly would have a different #.
kellyb's whole IP# is a puzzle;
unless she leaves her computer on all the time and never disconnects from AOL
(not meaning posting, just hooked up to her online service provider).


kellyb97    Posted 07-30-2004 at 08:14:48       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Yes I do keep my computer on all the time.. I used
to run a trucking business so I would have to
watch the load board all the time and have an
extra line for faxing.. so now that I'm not
"truckin'" I just keep my aol line on like a phone
line... maybe I should not do that?? It's just
such a pain to have to sign on everytime when I've
got it here available? suggestions? th


Gerrit PR    Posted 07-30-2004 at 08:24:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well, if you stay connected to the internet 24/7, you should have a good anti virus programm installed. I don't know to much about Mac comps, but I guess that the two big anti virus software companies ( Norton and McAfee ) sell antivirus programs for the Mac ad they do for Windows.

Secondly you should install a firewall, preventing hackers to use and access your computer. Talk to your local supplier and get those programs.
It's also important to update the anti virus software regularely..



Kellyb    Posted 07-30-2004 at 07:34:42       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Well it's not me!!!! you can call me.. I don't
know if I should put down where I live or not..
but if you have read my previous post.. I live in
the midwest.. not NY!!! I'm a total Hoosier!!I'm
just going to have to find the time to unhook this
thing and take it down to the guy that works on
M


Lori-NY    Posted 07-30-2004 at 08:03:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
That's interesting information. Here's a question:
I use localnet, they have dial-up numbers all over the USA. Would the ISP numbers change for each number I dialed into? Example:
I live in Central NY and use the local dial-up, last month I was in DC and used a local number from there. Would it be the same IP?
Just curious...


Gerrit PR    Posted 07-30-2004 at 08:19:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
It all depends on how your service provider works.

If they give so called dynamic IP addresses to their users ( like most providers do ), then you will get a different IP number every time you connect to the internet. In that case it doesn't matter which nummber you dial to connect.

Should your provider work with proxy servers, then the change is big that you will get the same IP number in different sessions.

There's an easy way to chck this out:
Post a message here, read it and check the IP number. Then disconnect, connect again, post again and check your IP number again. If they are different, you get a dynamic IP number at every login..



Gerrit PR    Posted 07-30-2004 at 08:31:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
To demonstrate this, I just disconnected and connected again.
My IP addres in the previous posts was 66.50.17.138 and should be different in this post.
It should start with 66.50 but the rest might be different....


Maggie/TX    Posted 07-30-2004 at 08:03:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
Kellyb, I'm on AOL too and have been having trouble with somebody trying to send emails to someone I never heard of, using my email address as the sender. But I've already talked to AOL and they say that is called "Spoofing" and doesn't necessarily mean you have a virus. I don't know how they do it but they do it when I'm not signed on.

The only thing that anybody can say for sure is that The Lerker is also using an AOL account to post, but not necessarily yours. If the misguided accusations continue, you might give a shoutout to Salmoneye. He's the one that enlightened me about how these IP things work and how they really don't work with AOL accounts. Maybe he can explain it to the Vigilante Committee.

Kelly, one other thing, did you know that you can post as long a message as you like and the Comments area will expand so that your words won't be cut off in mid-sentence? Just keep typing honey and it will go with you. I've noticed that most all of your posts stop in mid word or sentence and figured you thought that was all you were allowed.

I hope you have a great day and don't let anybody throw rocks at you and get away with it! Throw 'em right back! :)


Kellyb    Posted 07-30-2004 at 10:08:05       [Reply]  [Send Email]
maggie,
I don't know why my messages come out like that..
I just type away in the box and when I see them to
edit they are all left centered and the last word
or so is cut off?


Maggie/TX    Posted 07-30-2004 at 08:08:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
And see there? My IP is listed as the same numbers as yours and The Lerkers and I know I didn't post that idiot message as the Lerker. But if someone wants to accuse when they don't know what the heck they are talking about, bring it on. Make my day. ;)

Gerrit explained it very well about the IP's.


Gerrit PR    Posted 07-30-2004 at 08:13:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thanks Maggie,

Hopefully this will help people to jump to conclusions :-)


Gerrit PR    Posted 07-30-2004 at 09:10:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
Ooops! 'help' should be 'prevent' ...


Lori-NY    Posted 07-30-2004 at 08:03:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
That's interesting information. Here's a question:
I use localnet, they have dial-up numbers all over the USA. Would the ISP numbers change for each number I dialed into? Example:
I live in Central NY and use the local dial-up, last month I was in DC and used a local number from there. Would it be the same IP?
Just curious...


Ron/PA    Posted 07-30-2004 at 07:58:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
Kelly, don't bother, it's a waste of time and money. This will happen no matter how many times you take it to a shop.
Quit jumping at shadows, they're just trying to spook ya.
Ron


Clod    Posted 07-30-2004 at 10:38:47       [Reply]  [No Email]
The Lerker uses AOL.?? ha ha ha ha ha!


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