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Tossing out the good
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Clod    Posted 08-01-2004 at 10:01:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
Today in the USA we get a lot of change.They like to change things and advertize with a big sign that says NEW!! .New sells a lot of stuff. People like new. They might even use the word improved..But most often they still mean new. I like improved things if they are truely improved,, not just changed for the sake of sales to the unknowing. Here is an example.Sappose you have a new vehicle with electrical locking doors and electrical windows,Then you have those seatbelts to save lives,along with the airbag. So you sail off the freeway into an underpass when it floods and run into high water. They do this often in Houston. Well,, you got a shorted battery and you are going to drink more water than you need because you are locked in,,Unless you bring a hammer to bust the doorglass. Today the old engineer is being replaced by the interior decorator.He likes to make things look pretty.Rather than functional. You look at the dash on the new vehicles.. They look pretty..But try to work under them and see what pretty is worth. An old 50 Studebaker was easy.You open the hood and see the back of the instrument panel.Even a Huey helicopter has the instrument panel easy to open.You just twist a couple of DUZ fasteners and the panel flops down so you can replace instruments and check switches and wires. But do most folks care about functionality? NOPE!

steve19438    Posted 08-01-2004 at 11:39:39       [Reply]  [Send Email]
couldn't disagree with you more CLOD, about cars anyway. vehicles today are built better, cheaper, run longer, get way far better gas milage and do not require the frequency of maintenence that they did 40 yrs. ago. i no longer work on my vehicles as i am getting lazier, my financial situation allows me to pay someone else to do it and getting rid of old oil is a pain in the butt! 40 yrs. ago a car with 75,00 mi. was washed up, now that milage has been doubled. as always there will always be an example or two that someone can attest to the longevity of old vehicles.

Clod    Posted 08-01-2004 at 12:28:34       [Reply]  [No Email]
i no longer work on my vehicles as i am getting lazier, my financial situation allows me to pay someone else to do it

steve19438    Posted 08-01-2004 at 15:18:06       [Reply]  [Send Email]
ok, what am i missing here?

Clod    Posted 08-01-2004 at 16:19:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
My father seldom hired folks to do his work. Today most everything is done by outsiders.The man of the house will know one narrow banded technical matter that gets him a paycheck. This is all well and good as long as we live in a fake economic world where the politicians allow folks to have those special jobs. But if the game goes by the wayside then we are gona be in a heap of trouble.We have no control over our own property. We have no knowledge of how to repair and maintain these complex systems. But there is always the home made ox cart.

steve19438    Posted 08-01-2004 at 17:14:09       [Reply]  [Send Email]
so what's your solution?

Kellyb    Posted 08-01-2004 at 10:32:07       [Reply]  [Send Email]
People just don't have alot of common sense these
days.. It's taken me a while to figure it out..
but I think I've got it down pretty good now.. I
only pay .25-.50 for brand new clothes at
Goodwill or garage sales.. I got me a '74 Ford
pickemup truck that is an EASY engine.. (for my
Dad to work on!ha) and a paid for car.. that's 10
years old but perfectly functional and well kept!
I don't have to have those "keep up with the
jones" cars..Those ppl are stupid for throwing
their money

Stony Jim    Posted 08-01-2004 at 10:29:37       [Reply]  [No Email]
Anymore, it is cheaper to replace than to repair!

buck    Posted 08-01-2004 at 10:29:30       [Reply]  [No Email]

I agree with you to a degree and can relate to the floods in Huston as i was there once when that had alot of water on the ramps to the I state. Don't even need a house key anymore as the little buttons built into new cars will open your doors and all the numbers on the doors will program different functions for the car. Now when you get down to the basic car though there is little difference between a 1963 Crown Victoria and a 2003 Crown Victoria. The addition of all the bells and whistles have just about doubled the price of a vehicle while doing very little to the basic vehicle. by doubled the price I mean a vehicle of today equiped as one would have been in 63 vs. a vehicle of today equiped as they are today. I understand that the addition of the bells and whistles of today is what drives the market. Now in reality how many people would actually use 4 wheel drve if they couldn't push a little button on the dash.

mojo    Posted 08-01-2004 at 10:07:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
That's because they want you to go buy a new one if something breaks. Fix it? That's tooo ooold fashioned!

Clod    Posted 08-01-2004 at 10:48:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
Here is something that I do not like to work on.The front engined frontwheel drive cars. I worked in a shop awhile where they brought those in,,The best mechanic was always broke because he had to buy special tools every week.He worked real hard trying top get to bolts that there is not enough room to get to,The trans/engine and difrential is all stuck in one wad. I wondered why the engineers did not consider just plugging the front end on with quick connect bolts so you could drag the engine/drivetrain out from the body to work on it. But they do not care up at the CEO levels. About designs,, They care about golf most of all..I noticed the folks going out of business have a great supply of golf carts.My boss goes to big auctions.I think most of the bigshots golfed themselves out of business.

Dieselrider    Posted 08-01-2004 at 11:50:47       [Reply]  [No Email]
I don't know Clod, I think you're contradicting yo sef here. It wasn't too long ago you said you liked progress. Welcome to the oughts of the new century!

Clod    Posted 08-01-2004 at 12:19:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
Moving forward is progress,Jumping off a clif is moving downward at a fast rate by ending at a dumb destination.

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