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Trying to help some friends sell their place
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Deborah Stephenson    Posted 08-15-2004 at 15:21:29       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I'm trying to help some friends sell their home and business in Cedar Creek, MO (a very small town near Branson). They're in very poor health and need to move into town to be closer to a hospital, but aren't having any luck selling the place, so I told them I would give it a whirl.

I thought I'd mention it here because one of the laments I hear most often from people who really want to move to the country and try their hand at 'homesteading', is that they still need to keep a city job to support their families - most think self-sufficiency on the homestead just isn't possible anymore unless you own a big factory farm.

This place is a home (with 5 acres, pasture, barn, etc.) and a small convenience store next door, so it allows the owner to live and work in the same place. A real dream come true for the right person.

Anyway, I made up a website to let people know a little bit about the place if they're interested. Its not super polished or anything, and I'm still working on it, but there's enough there to see what's what. Here is the web address if you'd like to take a look...

truth finder    Posted 10-06-2005 at 12:56:36       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I don't know you but I also know the people at Yarnells. Do they know that you are such a liar? What's in this for you?
It's 2006 now and he still does not carry the tank with him 100% of the time.

OH Boy    Posted 08-16-2004 at 11:48:22       [Reply]  [No Email]

Are you a licensed realtor?

Deborah Stephenson    Posted 08-17-2004 at 09:05:35       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Oh Boy,
Sorry I missed your question before. NO I am not a realtor - licensed or otherwise. I'm just trying to help these folks because they really need to sell soon and aren't having any luck with the local realtors. They got a lot of people showing up who just wanted to look around and daydream instead of buying, because the realtors left it up to them to show the place. Since they are really handicapped by their illnesses (he has to carry an oxygen bottle with him everywhere)they just got tired of it and took the signs down. I volunteered to put it out here on the net (they don't know much - if anything - about computers) and to kind of pre-screen people for them so they wouldn't have the hassle of dealing with the "Looky Lous". I am acting purely as a friend - not in any official capacity.

toolman    Posted 08-15-2004 at 19:17:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
did a double take when i saw your name ,thats my sis,s married name, only she lives in canada.

ron,ar    Posted 08-15-2004 at 17:53:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
Did ya know that if you go to that site and click on "home" on the upper right it makes an entry on the page counter as if it had another visitor. I did it several times to see. Wonder how high I can get it to go up to?
You should list that property over on Tales, the part about alcoholic beverages should spark some interest:^)

another note    Posted 08-15-2004 at 18:14:33       [Reply]  [No Email]
I noticed it had the under ground tanks (UST's) upgraded to EPA standards. If they were not replaced or had extensive modifications such as inner linings,well monitoring devices, automatic inventory controls you only get a max of 10 years out of the upgrade. Most folks just add the sacrifical anodes and hope to get out within 10 years. That is why so many mom & pop stores w/gas pumps closed up in the late 90's. They couldn't pass the requirements and didn't have the cash to replace the tanks. Better check with the state enviormental dept before any serious thoughts about this property.BTDT

Deborah Stephenson    Posted 08-16-2004 at 09:03:11       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I'm sure if you try hard enough you could get that counter WAY up there. I'm not exactly sure why you would want to, or why you have so much time on your hands that you would feel the need to try, but, hey - KNOCK YOURSELF OUT!


They are NOT UNDERGROUND tanks! (In SW Misssouri there is not enough dirt to dig a hole that big!) The tanks are above ground and can be seen in at least one of the photos of the store. They were upgraded to the tune of over $40,000 just a year ago (so those 3 year old photos only show the OLD tanks - I'll get some new shots in a couple of days). This is not a case of just putting in sacrificial anodes and leaving it at that. The law in this state only requires the containment system (in the event of a leak) to hold something like 1/3 to 1/2 of the contents of ONE tank (the assumption being that the leak will probably only involve a single tank, and/or a partially filled tank) however the containment system for these tanks (all brand new and put in at considerable expense to EXCEED EPA and STATE standards) is sufficient to hold ALL the contents of at least one tank. (I'm not sure whether it was designed to hold the contents of both - I'll check.) As for well tests, etc. Since these are above ground and have containment systems which prevent leaks to the ground, the question of well contamination simply does not apply.

I thought I had stated that they were above ground on the web page, but after all the places I have listed this and all the forums where I've discussed it, I see that I somehow missed putting it there. I have since revised the site to include that information (though if you had looked at the photos in the gallery section you would have seen them and read the caption pointing them out).

PLEASE - in the future, ASK THE QUESTIONS instead of assuming the answers. Posts like these go a long way toward sabotaging my honest efforts to help these folks. I am not trying to put anything over on anybody, and neither are they. (The sad fact is, they will be taking losing money even if the place sells because they have such overwhelming medical bills to pay. They just need to get out from under something they are no longer physically able to keep up with.) So, again, please - If you have a question about any part of this property, all you have to do is ask.

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