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Well pump update
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Judy in NC    Posted 08-16-2004 at 18:22:11       [Reply]  [Send Email]

Today I finally quit dreading it and putting it off, and pulled the pipe from the casing.

The pipe was metal 1 diameter, 21 feet long an odd length?

This is a picture of what was on the end of the pipe adding about another 14 in length. It was clear on my computer - but seems pretty dark on here.

I removed it from the pipe, and it sounds like the foot valve is operational (not that I know a lot about foot valves but I hear the flapper in it moving when I tilt it from end to end).

Can you tell from the picture what the other devices are? There was a venturi at the top of this section when I unscrewed it from the pipe.

One thing I did notice when I unscrewed the top of the pipe from the silver head that secured it to the casing there was a dime size hole rotted through the pipe could this be the cause of all my problems?

Thanks in advance for any help you can give.

Willy and Toolman, you've been such a help and encouragement to me already.

Judy in NC

Jet9N    Posted 08-17-2004 at 08:52:28       [Reply]  [No Email]
The 21 ft length is not "odd", it is the standard
stock length of pipe.


Judy in NC    Posted 08-16-2004 at 19:01:33       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Thank you all so much for your responses. I'll be getting the connections I need tomorrow to secure the existing foot valve, I think.
Judy in NC

Mike in tn    Posted 08-17-2004 at 08:05:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
Judy, Take the foot valve to the hardware store with you to have it checked out. The ones that i use do not flap when tilted. They have a spring in them to keep them closed. The flapping sound may be that someone added a check valve above the foot valve That may be what the extra fittings are. The check valve should flap when tilted.

ron,ar    Posted 08-16-2004 at 18:50:34       [Reply]  [No Email]

here is a lighter picture, I agree that the hole is almost certainly the problem.

toolman    Posted 08-16-2004 at 18:56:34       [Reply]  [No Email]
thats a better view of it , looks like someone added a whole lot of fittings to connect the foot valve to the pipe , must of been heavy gettin that out, you don,t need all that judy, just a foot valve to a plastic pipe,a fitting on either end to connect things up.

TB    Posted 08-16-2004 at 19:02:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
and the strainer

toolman    Posted 08-16-2004 at 19:05:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
i never use one here don,t need it but maybe there ,hard to tell.

Willy-N    Posted 08-16-2004 at 18:41:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
99.9% chance that is the problem (the Hole)replace the pipe with black Poly pipe at least Schedal 40 if you can find it. It then will be flexable and one peice and you use slip hose barb fittings and hose clamps to hold it together. I reconend the best stainless steel clamps you can get and use 2 per conection. Get brass hose barb fitting they are strong and won't rust. Mark H.

Pitch    Posted 08-16-2004 at 18:41:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yes I would think that the hole was the cause. If it was above the foot valve the water would not stay in the pipe. Personaly I would replace the metal pipe with black plastic. cheaper and will last literally forever.

Kellyb    Posted 08-16-2004 at 18:35:25       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Wow Judy,
I am impressed! kb

Judy in NC    Posted 08-16-2004 at 19:20:45       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Thanks for the kind words.

Sometimes I am impressed at what I am able to learn/figure out how to do.

When I first got my 9N tractor, Willy and a number of others on the YT site were a real help in solving several issues with it. I went from knowing absolutely nothing about hydraulics to finding out I could repair many parts of the system myself with a little advice from the fine folks there.

Necessity is certainly the mother of invention (and of learning to).

But I never could have gotten this far without all the very helpful folks on this board.

Judy in NC

Grove r    Posted 08-17-2004 at 02:41:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
Judy; this is related to your problem, but, not have the ability to be a match for any problem you encounter...just stick with it...that is all any of us can do...and each problem will get easyer to solve as you go along. Asking for advice here, or anywhere is the first step in obtaining knowledge, and this trait will see you through a lot of seemingly impossible situations, that, and using your head, which you already do so well. Lots of these ole boys, like Toolman, and Mark, here, have the ability to help, because they have been down this road before, their knowledge is yours for the asking. For what it's worth, I too think the hole in the pipe is the problem, and the plastic pipe is the way to go to prevent later ocourances of the same nature. My hat is off to you. have a gooder, R.E.L.

Judy in NC    Posted 08-17-2004 at 10:43:01       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Thank you for your reply.

It is amazing how much a simple pat on the back can give you the strength to keep going.

With our family of 11, there are some days I feel like I am literally running from start of day to finish to get everything done. Since I am the "fix-it" person around our home (my husband has talents and interests in other areas), as well as cook, home school teacher, gardener, animal husband(woman?),etc. it makes for some very heavy loads sometimes. :-) I do count heavily on the Lord to give me grace and strength, but I do believe he uses people such as you fine folks here to help accomplish that.

Thanks to all of you!

Judy in NC

toolman    Posted 08-17-2004 at 12:13:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
you help us also judy you are an inspiration, you do very well not as a woman but as a person, tasks are difficult sometimes but have to be done, and it is good that you take charge and get at them, congulats.

ron,ar    Posted 08-16-2004 at 19:49:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
well, if you can find your way around N series ford hydraulics I am impressed also, those systems being so "easy" to get to and all.

toolman    Posted 08-16-2004 at 18:34:47       [Reply]  [No Email]
that dime sized hole sure could be your problem,it would just suck air and no water, can you change that piece of pipe out?if the venture is down in the well then it is set up for deep well operation , thats ok though, since you have it out check everything else out and make sure its in good shape, foot valves are pretty cheap if your worried about it change it now ,clean everything up, hard to terll from the pictures what is there it looks like just fittings, if it is and they aren,t rotted don,t worry about them, fix the leak drop it back down, secure it, fill it with water,connect it to the pump, top up the rest through the plug on the pump and turn on your pump, your doin very good , don,t be afrain of it so far your doin just fine.

Pitch    Posted 08-16-2004 at 18:26:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yes I would think that the hole was the cause. If it was above the foot valve the water would not stay in the pipe. Personaly I would replace the metal pipe with black plastic. cheaper and will last literally forever.

JDK    Posted 08-16-2004 at 18:45:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
The hole would allow the pump to suck air instead of water thereby losing the "vaccuum in the drawpipe.I think yer on your way to solving it.
The perforated end is a screen to keep pebbles and such out of pipe.As was said(if the old pipe is corroded&nasty)I'd replace it with flexible plastic.Temporary repair to holed pipe could prolly be done with a couple hose clamps and piece of"rubber" but if pipe rotted through it's prolly due for replacement.

TB    Posted 08-16-2004 at 18:33:41       [Reply]  [No Email]
I concur. It is a very strong possability that is the cause. Nothing wrong with plastic and easyer to work with.

toolman    Posted 08-16-2004 at 18:39:13       [Reply]  [No Email]
judy what they said about the plastic is true it is cheap , and at the end all you have to do is add your fittings clam them with a gear clam, screw your foot valve on and set up the other end to screw to your pump. the stuff in that picture is metal isn,t it? whatever way works best for you go with though.

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