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Firearm serial numbers
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steve19438    Posted 08-17-2004 at 07:59:51       [Reply]  [Send Email]
anyone know of a book(s) that lists age of firearms according to their ser. numbers? not antiques, from the 50's to present. thanks


screaminghollow    Posted 08-17-2004 at 09:22:52       [Reply]  [No Email]
My oldest son's stevens commemorative single shot was recently stolen. I had the serial number written down, but that was all. I reported it and the police officer said that wasn't good enough, that stevens uses the same serial numbers on various models. HUH???? I called Savage Stevens and got a royal run around. They only have records back five years. Yes, they do issue commemorative rifles each year and each production run starts at number one. That way when folks get a low serial number they think it is more valuable. They couldn't even help me as to which commemorative. The gun shop where we bought it 15 yrs ago has closed. All the paper work was in the original box with the gun.
What really irks me is that an identical gun came up on gunbroker.com with the same serial number and I couldn't do squat and neither would the police. I always thought by keeping a list of the serial numbers I had some protection. Ha!


JDK    Posted 08-17-2004 at 14:25:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
Perhaps the officer was not"that" familiar with the NCIC(Nat'l Crime Info Cntr) data requirements.While it is true that Mfgs occaisonly reuse serial numbers it would be extremely unlikely that they would use the same numbers for the same caliber/model/type/caliber of weapon.For instance you might have a:
1234567-Revolver/Mod ab/Cal .45
1234567-Shotgun/Mod xy/Cal 12
1234567-Rifle/Lever/Mod XX/Cal 30
but not two of the same.The NCIC database requires this data for positive ID beyond serial no.Even has place for OAN(owner applied no)if you have personally marked the gun.
I spent several yrs working with the NCIC system so I do know of what I speak.
As to someones comment about serial numbers being useless,WRONG,but additional info as above is needed(Cal,Model,Type).I would estimate that over half of stolen gun complaintants cannot provide this info.MAKE A LIST,keep it in a safe
place.If the info cannot be entered into NCIC the only record is with your LOCAL Police and unless Lady Luck loves ya,yer outta luck.
#Note:above goes for ANY valubles you own.


Joel    Posted 08-17-2004 at 12:33:33       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Take photos of your guns and write the serial numbers on the back. Store them somewhere away from your house where you can get them if you need them.


Salmoneye    Posted 08-17-2004 at 08:29:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
No comprehensive book I know of other than the 'Blue Book' of firearms values...

There are companies that have never released their serial number info to the general public...

What brand we talking here?...Many brands and models are available online, and I have lots of them saved...

I can tell you now that if you are looking for a Savage/Springfield/Stevens manufacture date by serial number, you are SOL...The company records are all held in trust by one guy (whose name and address I have somewhere here) and he charges $25 for dateing guns...

Let me know what you have or are wondering about, and I might be able to help...


steve19438    Posted 08-17-2004 at 09:16:35       [Reply]  [Send Email]
i have received dates of manufature in the past from remington, winchester, etc. i was just hoping that somewhere there might be a book that listed all makes and models and ser. numbers and dates of manufacture. just dreaming i guess! (million dollar idea?) thanks


Like I said...    Posted 08-17-2004 at 09:20:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
The best book out there for that is the 'Blue Book'...Should be at that link in my first post...

Salmoneye


steve19438    Posted 08-17-2004 at 09:26:17       [Reply]  [Send Email]
ya'but does the BB list ser. numbers and dates of manufacture? (thats what i'm really looking for)


Salmoneye    Posted 08-17-2004 at 09:51:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
As far as it goes yes...There are some companies (Savage family for one) that have never released the info about serial numbers...

Most old US manufacturers like Remington and Winchester are in the BB...

Try the library and see if you like an old copy before buying a new one...



steve19438    Posted 08-17-2004 at 10:00:13       [Reply]  [Send Email]
just ordered a copy from amazon.com. 13 bucks cheaper than from the BB web site! thanks again.


Peanut - Hey Steve    Posted 08-17-2004 at 11:06:56       [Reply]  [No Email]
Steve:
When you get the BB post and let me know how you like it. I realize you are looking for values on newer guns but I am interested in how the BB would work for an antique.

I have a Winchester lever action 12 gauge shotgun that has been in my family for generations. If I remember right the serial number is in the 1900s. I was told it was made in the late 1800s and just dont know for sure. I used to hunt with it but the discharge for the spent shells is directly over my forehead. It is awfully hard to repeat fire when you are wearing a ball cap. The shells bounce off the bill and hit me in the face ... ouch.


Hmm...    Posted 08-17-2004 at 11:16:07       [Reply]  [No Email]
Go here:

http://www.gunbroker.com/

Put winchester 1887 in the 'search'...

They aint cheap...



Well I'll Be    Posted 08-17-2004 at 11:46:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
Wow. Thanks.

The search brought back many results. The second from the top is exactly like mine. Just about the same condition too.

Nice to know that my antique is really worth something other than sentimental value.

Thanks again.

- Peanut


Hope it helps!    Posted 08-17-2004 at 10:11:47       [Reply]  [No Email]
Salmoneye


Clod    Posted 08-17-2004 at 10:55:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
That is strange to call them serial numbers but then repeat them. They are no longer serial but parallel numbers.


steve19438    Posted 08-17-2004 at 11:04:20       [Reply]  [Send Email]
kinda like a double mail delivery, delivery.


Clod    Posted 08-17-2004 at 11:08:40       [Reply]  [No Email]
Steve,Are you off reading my mail?? I have to go to work..Tell me the good news after 5 PM..See you later.Dont shoot yourself in the foot.


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