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steve19438    Posted 08-20-2004 at 05:21:08       [Reply]  [Send Email]
does anyone else not sleep well at night? when i wake up in the mornings i feel more tired than when i went to bed. this morning i feel like i was in a "knock down-drag out" fight all night long. i've been "up" for awhile and already feel like going back to bed!

BOSS    Posted 08-20-2004 at 15:23:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
Not me, I can fall asleep inless than a minute. My wife is just the opposite, it takes her about an hour.
When she goes into the bathroom to get ready for bed, I will take her pillow and lay on it and fall asleep before she comes to bed. She looks all over for her pillow and has a hard time waking me up to get it back.

steve19438    Posted 08-20-2004 at 11:42:33       [Reply]  [Send Email]
thanks for all the comments! i guess a visit to the dr. is in order.

don't forget ...Dee    Posted 08-20-2004 at 12:13:52       [Reply]  [No Email]
to take a complete list of your meds & any analgesics (aspirin, motrin, etc) AND vitamins you take also, along with your diary I mentioned earlier. Docs/nurses really appreciate a patient's involvement in his/her own care. It also makes you feel like you are not just an 'object'. Ask lots of questions too. Dee

steve19438    Posted 08-20-2004 at 15:07:42       [Reply]  [Send Email]
will do! thanks.

Dee in mid MO    Posted 08-20-2004 at 11:26:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
Dreaming is a very distinct part of sleep. However, during the dream phase of sleep (REM), we actually have more of the ‘stress hormones’ such as adrenaline in our systems. So over-dreaming stresses our bodies and makes us feel exhausted when we awaken. Worrying, whether we can do something about the problem or not, can manifest into more dreaming. Also, do you have “early morning waking syndrome”, ie. waking up very early ?

Several suggestions from the group ... but honestly, you probably need to have a good physical exam from your Doctor. The first thing that comes to mind is that you may be oxygen deprived when sleeping - do you snore a lot, and wake up abruptly?

Calcium & magnesium are essential for normal sleep, producing calming effects on the brain.
Also, insufficient calcium and magnesium can cause leg cramps during the night.

Melatonin before bedtime helps the elderly because as we age, our body produces less melatonin. That said, if our melatonin levels are normal, and we take additional melatonin - that extra melatonin may not help us as much as we hope it would.

Do take the time and be an advocate for yourself - get to a DOC and let him/her figure it out. Before you go to the Doc, write down all the things you do in a day, what you eat & drink during the day, when you go to bed, whether you fall asleep immediately or not, your wakefulness during the night, the time you wake up, etc. – in other words, have a diary you can present him/her with – it will save time during the initial visit tremendously and will help with the direction the Doc will go first.

Do not exercise or shower before going to bed. Sometimes that keeps people awake too.

Sleep difficulties/deprivation are costly to employers, society – causing absenteeism, accidents and thus medical costs, etc. So…this is a good subject for all - because a lot of people are afflicted with sleep difficulty/loss/deprivation.

Take care of yourself, and keep us posted. Dee

DD    Posted 08-20-2004 at 10:15:34       [Reply]  [No Email]
Sounds like a sleep study is in order for you, they can tell you everything you need to know. Are your covers usually dishevelled when you wake up in the mornings? If so, you could have restless leg syndrome also along with the sleeping problems. They will be able to tell you how long you are in REM sleep and such and that will answer all of your questions rather than just guessing : ) Your primary care Doc can help to get it arranged.

Duh, didn't think of this    Posted 08-20-2004 at 10:07:02       [Reply]  [Send Email]
How old's your bed? After 11yrs I'd beaten my futon into a slab of concrete. Got a new futon, slept like a rock.


~Lenore    Posted 08-20-2004 at 09:16:21       [Reply]  [No Email]
Usually the times I have trouble sleeping has to do with stress.
I drink coffee all day long and it does not bother me.
I do keep some Melatonin on hand if I feel I may have trouble getting to sleep
Melatonin is a natural sleep aid our bodies produce;
however as we age our body produces less of it.
I always wake up feeling rested and refreshed.
Do you dream a lot, Steve?
I do believe lots of dreams tire a person out.
It is almost like working while you are asleep.
If I dream, I dont know it and it does not bother me.
My friend Bonnie has lots of dreams and wakes up tired every morning.

steve19438    Posted 08-20-2004 at 10:06:49       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Do you dream a lot, Steve

funny you mention that! i dream almost every nite and it just drives me nuts!!! the dreams are so vivid and real it's like real life.

~Lenore    Posted 08-20-2004 at 10:19:01       [Reply]  [No Email]
I believe dreams, specially those vivid and dramatic ones, is almost like working in your sleep.

You might try melatonin, you can get it at any pharmacy or health food store. It does not make you feel drugged; if an emergency happens you will wake up bight eyed and bushy tailed, not groggy at all. I get the 3mg ones.

My friend Bonnie used them and it helped her to sleep better with fewer dramtic dreams, too.

Gary    Posted 08-20-2004 at 09:09:52       [Reply]  [No Email]
Try a B-complex vitamin supplement. Stress Tabs is a good one, helps your body convert food to energy, plus additional folic acid, good for your circulation. It works so good for me. I'm 51 work 8 hour 5 day a week job. Keep up two homes, one in the city,other in the country, keep up with 12 cows and their calves. Go to bed at 8 pm get up 330 am everyday, am always ready to go by daylight at 630 am.

bob ny    Posted 08-20-2004 at 06:38:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
your problem is iron the iron in your blood has turned into lead in your bott,or it gould be old age

Paula    Posted 08-20-2004 at 06:00:41       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I have nights like that too. Cut back on the caffiene, get a little
physical excercise - like a walk -, take a WARM (not hot) bath,
go to bed at the same time every night and wake up at the same
time every morning.


Sid    Posted 08-20-2004 at 05:49:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
Sleep Apnea. Do a search on it. Ask your doctor about it. If you want more info from me just ask and I will tell you more later.

Dave 2N    Posted 08-20-2004 at 05:35:24       [Reply]  [Send Email]

You say: "i don't like posting on personal subjects but...." You should continue with "I do it all the time!."

Steve from TN    Posted 08-20-2004 at 05:33:39       [Reply]  [No Email]
Good morning, Steve. I take one Benadryl(sp) every night about 30 min. before getting into the bed. It works for me. I get the Equate brand at Wal-Mart. You can get the little punch-outs or you can get the bottle of 100. The big bottle is much cheaper per capsule. When I have had a really stressful day, I take two. The only side affects are your itching will decrease and your sinuses will be drier. I need all the benefits that I can get. I also take a mild anti-depressant. It makes my wife sweeter.

Old John    Posted 08-20-2004 at 05:56:41       [Reply]  [Send Email]

Hi Steve, & Y'all,

I always run a little "hyper", so I always had some trouble getting asleep. About 35 years ago
my old doctor told me,
"Well, I can give you a scrip, for sleeping pills,
or you can drink a beer or two, or a shot of liquor or two, before you go to bed. But, no more than 2!"
So, ever since, I've had a whiskey & diet pepsi, before I goes to bed. I Sleep like a baby. And, I've, over the years, tried all kinds of whiskey, and liquor. I can't use real pepsi or coke, cause the sugar makes me hyper.

My real favorite is "Old Overholt, Rye whiskey".
But it kills my gall bladder, as does rye bread.
I asked old doctor what I could take to avoid the pain. He said, "No problem!, Quit drinking the rye whiskey, or eating rye bread."

It is something you might try, though, if you are not a teetotaller. Couple beers make a lotta guys sleep like a ba-a-aby. G'luck wit it.
'Til Later,
Old John

Clod    Posted 08-20-2004 at 05:41:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
A hard day of work will put you to sleep.You need no chemicals.

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