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Quiet weekend? Yeah right.....
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Gerrit PR    Posted 08-22-2004 at 15:05:21       [Reply]  [No Email]
So I was going to have to have this quiet weekend I promised myself...

But......

On friday afternoon my comp went berserk..Connected to the internet but no way to get any website in my browser. Email wouldn't download. The network failed to work. Some programs worked, most didn't..

Then I relialized the automatic update function of Windows XP started to download and install Service Pack 2. If you may believe Bill Gates that would be the solution of all kind of of problem his girls and guys and microsoft built in the system... Big deal!

Thank God I make daily backups on a second hard disk and that one seemed to be O.K.

So I did a system restore - great feature on the Compaq which restores the PC to the original state. Yeah right.. After some whirring and all kind of messges it said: Press enter to turn off your computer.. When I turned it back on: screens full of error messages but no windows....

So I went and bought XP professional ( which I wanted for a long time - mainly for my website stuff ) and started to install it. After 3 installs that seemed to be all right but came up with some error messages after the whole process was done and would shut down the comp, I went to bed (late - very late! )yesterday night..

This morning I decided to completely erase my hard disk, repartition it, format it and try again. Now it worked and I have a working computer... Gonna spend the rest of the day to restore my programs, documents, pictures, music and other stuff.

When are we going to have computers and operating systems that do what we pay for? big sigh....


BOSS    Posted 08-22-2004 at 17:07:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thats what happens when you get on all those porn sites.


Gerrit PR    Posted 08-22-2004 at 17:14:37       [Reply]  [No Email]
Why don't you share your experiences in fixing your 'puter after you visited those sites?



BOSS    Posted 08-22-2004 at 19:29:56       [Reply]  [No Email]
I take mine to Best Buy and have them fix it.

I just have to be careful and go to the safe porn sites so it doesn't happen again.


ron,ar    Posted 08-22-2004 at 15:43:48       [Reply]  [No Email]
I have found that when installing or up-grading an operating system a clean install works best. FDISK and FORMAT works for me. I have heard that this may not be possible on a HD with XP already installed but cannot verify that rumor.


Gerrit PR    Posted 08-22-2004 at 15:50:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
That rumor is not right.. Well, it depends on your installation, actually. If you have a pre-installed XP ( and hence no CD with the OS on it )it's not possible. With a CD you have the option to re-partition and format.

I ended up doing that. At first I was trying to kepe the partition with the XP home installation files on it, hoping I could reover them one way or another. This morning I deleted all partitions on my primary HD , mad one new partition, formatted it in NTFS and installed XP pro. That did the trick...


George in TX    Posted 08-22-2004 at 15:25:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
"When are we going to have computers and operating systems that do what we pay for? big sigh...."

Gerrit I figure that'll happen long after Bill Gates is dead and gone. Unfortunately that'll also be long after you and I are gone.

I've got an old P2-200mhz box sitting in the corner gathering dust. I was thinking of sticking in a 40gb hd and building a Linux box. Problem is I've heard there's a pretty steep learning curve with Linux and while I enjoy a challenge like that I really don't have the time to spend on a project like that right now. Do you have any experience with Linux?


Gerrit PR    Posted 08-22-2004 at 15:35:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yeah, it takes some time to learn Linux... I installed it a couple of years ago. I was living in Germany, had my consulting company and some time in between projects. I used a seperate comp for it. It worked pretty good, but in this MS dominated world it's no real alternative.. I ended up running my server under Linux and the workstations with NT4 workstation. The server hasn't had one minute downtime! Now I learned the new owner installed Window2 2003 Server and got the Linux server out.. Oh well their problem :-)

I will give XP pro a serious try - hopefully it is more stable than XP home..


Burrhead    Posted 08-22-2004 at 15:15:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
my hat is off to you Gerrit. Pitiful me, and here it was that I thought I was having a bad weekend when the starter rope broke on the lawnmower. ;^)


Gerrit PR    Posted 08-22-2004 at 15:28:35       [Reply]  [No Email]

O well... I rather sit at my desk than do repairs..Playing handyman all week is enough :-) And after the balloon episode... no, no..Patria will read this :-))

Anyway, I'm glad my comp works again.. How's you mower?



George in TX    Posted 08-22-2004 at 15:40:59       [Reply]  [No Email]
We'd all just love to hear about the balloon episode. Here's what you do. Sneak over to Patria's computer and sabotage it so's it'll be offline until your post about the ballons is ... on about page six. LOL

Sorry Patria, couldn't resist.


Gerrit PR    Posted 08-22-2004 at 15:45:28       [Reply]  [No Email]

Oh no.. She'd find a way to log in to my comp or go to a friend and get online there....

Sorry guys... no balloon story this year :)


you just as well    Posted 08-22-2004 at 17:45:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
tell us all about, if you don't we will make up our own version anyway:^) ron,ar


Gerrit PR    Posted 08-22-2004 at 18:02:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
It's gotta be your own version, I'm afraid :-)



Burrhead    Posted 08-22-2004 at 15:43:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
yeah we do need to know. ;^)


Gerrit PR    Posted 08-22-2004 at 15:53:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well, then why don't you guys get together, chip in and convert your motorhome to a motorboat and make a nice trip to the carribean..

I'll gladly tell you the story somewhere at the beach with a cooler full of Medailla within reach!


Burrhead    Posted 08-22-2004 at 16:00:28       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thanks Gerrit that is a most gracious offer.

If I can get toolman rounded up with a can of pitch we may try it.


Gerrit PR    Posted 08-22-2004 at 16:03:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
Talking about toolman, where is he? haven't seen him around for some time... He also missed my birthday party :-)

And, Burr, you are welcome here anytime!


ron,ar    Posted 08-22-2004 at 17:25:22       [Reply]  [No Email]
you may regret the last part of that post. He can eat ya out of house and home:^)


Gerrit PR    Posted 08-22-2004 at 17:35:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
You know Ron, one of the things I like about PR is the traditional hospitality. People here always cook a lot because you might get visitors!
In the Netherlands, where I'm from origonally, you have to be invited for dinner; here whenever you visit family or friends, there is food and they won't rest until everybody present had a nice meal..

So whenever you guys feel like going to PR you will enjoy Patria's cooking ( and I will lite the BBQ and operate it! )


ron,ar    Posted 08-22-2004 at 17:41:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
I may have to get the jon-boat out and take a trip, wonder how long it would take me to paddle there? 'course I would only have to paddle to the Texas coast, burr would have to paddle the rest of the trip. He has more experiance in world travels, him being Les's traveling companion and all.
Seriously, I wish I could make that trip. I am pretty much a salt water person, born on the Gulf Coast and done a tour in the Navy, it is in my blood. I feel landlocked here in Arkansas.


Gerrit PR    Posted 08-22-2004 at 17:59:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
I'd like to see that: you and Burr paddling....

It's sure worth it to visit PR! When I first came here ( to meet Patria for the first time! ) I straight away had a the feeling:"this is the place to be!"
So the decission where we would live together was an easy one. Although Patria loved Europe - we made a 6 week trip. I had to show her my origins and have her meet my folks... But we decided to live here and I didn't regret it one single day.

Anyway, I would love to meet you and others from this board, here in PR or over there!


Burrhead    Posted 08-22-2004 at 16:08:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thanks Gerrit that's mutual

I dunno about toolman. He posted a few days back and said he was going to WalMarts and get a hug then we never heard from him again.

He musta really got carried away on that hug.


Gerrit PR    Posted 08-22-2004 at 16:11:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
A hug huh? Hmmm...


Clod    Posted 08-22-2004 at 15:19:48       [Reply]  [No Email]
cops keep a throw down gun.i keep a throw down pc.


Gerrit PR    Posted 08-22-2004 at 15:36:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well, yesterday I felt like throwing my comp out of the window.. Thank God Patria's comp is still working - although I have to do something to that one also :-(


Clod    Posted 08-22-2004 at 15:54:01       [Reply]  [No Email]
I have an old Compaq that I have for a spare .It is at my nieces right now but it is good for a spare.It is slow but reliable because there are no extra programs on it.59 bucks is all it cost me.I got the new XP Pro comeing from Tiger for my new PC.


Gerrit PR    Posted 08-22-2004 at 15:58:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
Talking about the new XP you bought, I paid $ 179 for XP pro upgrade yesterday at Office Max. Pretty good deal, I think. The only thing you need is an official old windows version ( 98, NT4, ME, 2000 pro ). In the beginning of the installation process it asks for the CD of the old windows.. Took me about an hour to dig up a win98 CD :-)


Clod    Posted 08-22-2004 at 16:27:37       [Reply]  [No Email]
I was off looking for pictures for Granny up there.The disk I ordered was XP Pro The manufacturers version.That way you get the entire set up.I often loose the old 98 on these anyway by formatting.Im going to quit doing that.But my new PC came without OS. The disk was 159 then about 25 UPS shipping.Anyway was 172 total.I ordered a new monitor too the next day. I noticed the cover over disk say Microsoft checks to make sure the old disk is legal.So If I buy a junker I am not sure of the disk origins. The Western Digital HD in my new PC needed drivers. I found out from their site.So I will us my Seagate kit and get online to worry with the Western Digital later.


Gerrit PR    Posted 08-22-2004 at 16:39:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
You could also try to start the setup with you Western Digital. XP pro comes loaded with drivers and there's a good change it includes the driver for your HD. Just give it a try..

After I have set up all my stuff I want to use the second HD to make so called mirror set. XP pro should have that option.. That way you have two HD's with exactly the same files on it and don't have to worry about backups. Something to consider when you set up you new Xp pro...

I guess you will get a legal copy. Companies that sell software over the internet can't afford to sell illegal stuff ( unless they're somewhere in Asia of course.. )

Good luck with the installation and I sure hope I won't take you a whole weekend!


Clod    Posted 08-22-2004 at 16:48:41       [Reply]  [No Email]
I will get that info and put it here plus the Western Digital site. Oh yes.Tiger direct would sell only legal disk but I may get a junker PC with an illegal load.When you cover over and register then your motherboard number and all info goes to MS.


Gerrit PR    Posted 08-22-2004 at 16:53:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
There are way around that though.. A search in google wil get you some nice serial numbers...


Clod    Posted 08-22-2004 at 16:56:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thanks Gerrit,I didnt know that. Here is the Western digital info.I think I have the right page opened here.


Gerrit PR    Posted 08-22-2004 at 17:05:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
That's what I thought, Clod. You only have to make sure your Bios settings are OK, so your computer will recognize the HD and the XP setup will do the rest.
If you follow the instructions on that WD site to setup your bios, you should be all right for the XP installation!


Clod    Posted 08-22-2004 at 17:11:01       [Reply]  [No Email]
I ran into that problem plus i was going to use my XP home disk I had loaded in my Hewlet Pckard.So I stopped to order a new disk.This Seagate I bought at Wallmarts is much more simple for me because it comes with a kit for installation includes a disk to set up the system too.This one at Tiger Direct is about the same price if you include shipping.So Wallmarts worked out OK here.Look lower to se what comes with this one. Im useing it as slave here now.


Clod    Posted 08-22-2004 at 17:14:04       [Reply]  [No Email]
Why my XP failed to find the HD <>> Now ,here >>> Note: If your drive is connected to a controller card, ATA/66/100 controller, or Raid controller, you may need to press the F6 key to load the driver for the controller before XP can find a drive to install to. See Answer ID 127 for more information.


Gerrit PR    Posted 08-22-2004 at 17:19:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yeah, Patria told me about that thread, but I had no time to look into it at that time.

The fisrt thing is to get your computer to recognize your WD hard disk. If that is not the case, XP pro won't help you, I'm afraid.

To test this, start your comp and hit whatever you have to hit to enter the setup mode and check whether the HD is "there" .
If it's not, follow the instructions on the WD site that you mentioned above. As soon as the HD is recognized by your comp, XP should be able to find it and use it..


Clod    Posted 08-22-2004 at 17:27:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
That was the hang up.XP said .I can not find HD.Then it just left things hanging.But I have found enough info to do the loading again with the new disk If I would have gotten my Home XP in.I would have had trouble with Gates.I hear he needs the money bad. I hoped to buy one disk and use it like it belonged to me.That is not how it works now.


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