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KellyGa    Posted 08-25-2004 at 15:43:59       [Reply]  [No Email]
All this talk about banning Walmart. Well, Mama has joined the ranks. She has me going to Publix every Friday for groceries, which for the most part is fine, except I wont buy detergents and such, they just cost too much there. She is trying to convince me not to go there for anything. Thing is, its just so darn cheap, and convenient, and has everything. I get everything from oil and oil filters for oil changes to charcoal to Shelbys clothes from there. Now, she wants to find a Mom and Pop grocery to stop in and buy from, from time to time. That would be great, except there are none that I know of, or I would be happy to go with her to this mom and pop store.

Anyway...where do each of you get your groceries from?


RedTail    Posted 08-26-2004 at 14:15:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
this issue is tearing our small town apart as walmart tries to put in a 150-200k sq foot Super center. Some of teh pro walmart folks have threatend some city counsel members. Its really ugly. Me, like our small businesses where I get real service and not some pimple faced kid who doesnt knwo anything. Plus walmart in Anti-American in terms of trade practices, they force alot of jobs to China by cuasing suppliers to give lower prices than are feasible with American workers.


~Lenore    Posted 08-26-2004 at 13:30:52       [Reply]  [No Email]
Like Maggie said there is no SWM here yet. One is planned for next year. I buy my gorceies at Brookshire Brothers and HEB here in town. At least once a week a friend and I go eat at Los Compadre's Mexican Restraunt in Dayton, then I run into Thrif-tee and buy meat and bread. It is the only place that sells the chicken soup base around here, that is the secret to my famous chicken dishes!

I just dont know if I will be temped to shop groceries at SWM when it comes. I find myself running in and out of the dollar stores now to avoid the crowds in the store and in the parking lots. I buy cleaning supplies and batteries there.


Will    Posted 08-26-2004 at 13:27:12       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I used to shop at Walmart, until I overheard a conversation between two employees, in the auto parts/hardware section, talking about what a great program their management had made arrangements for. The store in on SR48 in Lebanon, Ohio. Both empolyees, with the help of their store management/staff, were receiving Section 8 rental assistance. Since they (the employees) didn't make enough money per the governments guidelines the were receiving $800.00 a month in rent assistance (or their landlord was) and they only had to pay $200.00 a month rent.

I don't mind helping out someone who is down and out, but I won't shop at a business that coordinates rent subsidies for its employees - that is taxpayer money, and it amounts to a subsidy to Walmart.


hay    Posted 08-26-2004 at 05:15:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
no wal-mart in the village near me....yet! hope it never is. the nearest W-M is about 20 miles south and i have not gone there or to any wal-mart in almost two years and not planning to ever go back. we had a tiff about prices and i told them where they could put their store (where the sun don't shine) and walked out. the two small stores in 'the village' do just fine ( brookshire bros and food basket). target is fast becoming a major player in my area and i really like it. no loud music and mostly very helpful clerks and reasonable prices. hope they add groceries soon.


DigitalMat    Posted 08-25-2004 at 22:48:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
Honestly, I shop at WalMart a lot. I get off from work at 11:00pm and WalMart is within spitting distance. Most of what I buy comes from there. I even bought electrical wiring and boxes late at night when I was remodeling the kitchen. I like most of the "Good Value" brand things, and they are so cheap. Some aren't good, but we try them all, and most are the same as the name brands for half as much. That really helps the budget. They did have an understaffing problem for a while, but I sent a really detailed email to the company about it, and about 3 weeks later got a call from the "new" customer service manager wanting more detail to improve service. They really got on the ball, and it has been great ever since. As far as social change, it happens no matter what we do. Look at history. The Pony Express only lasted 2 years. The railroad came through and changed everything. The world didn't end, and everyone just had to adjust. Not easy, but it has to be done. All we can do is hope our lives stay the same, but prepare just in case they don't. History is full of examples. We just don't see them because it wasn't our problem. They survived, and so will we. Someday, Walmart will meet its match, probably something involving the Internet. People will also complain about that. "Where are all the Walmarts where I can see a real person and be greeted by an old guy at the door like when I was a kid?" Our grandkids will be nostalgic for Walmarts. Kind of scary, isn't it?


Maggie/Tx    Posted 08-25-2004 at 21:11:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
We don't have a super Wal-Mart yet, but will soon. Even when we get one with a full line of groceries though I will continue to buy groceries from Thrif-tee and Brookshire Brothers right here in town. Thrif-tee is a locally owned store with the best meat around and Brookshire Brothers has a larger selection of produce and frozen foods, so I sometimes hit both stores in the same week. If there is anything I need that I can't find in those two stores I'll go to HEB in the next town.

I firmly believe in shopping locally. If you spend money close to home it comes back to you sooner. :)


KraigWY    Posted 08-25-2004 at 20:42:36       [Reply]  [No Email]
I don't have a walley world with in 70 miles of here. I don't like them but its only because I don't like crowds. How ever when I do get a chance I like to sneak in and stock up on Fuel filters for my diesel trucks. I only know one person who ever worked at W-mart, My MIL, she loves it, she worked there over 20 years, (clerk not management). This shop localy bs is just that, I hear all the time adds saying shop locally. Three times in three differant store in my small town I've heard complaints of us country people need to wash our trucks before we come to down WE are responsible for the dusty streets. Never heard wal mart or sears complain about my dirty truck. Nah, I will shop where I can get the best deals, except Sears, I will always love Craftsman tools and I'm willing to pay for quality tools. Besides I like the way Sears treats their employees that are in the Gaurd and Reserve.


KellyGa    Posted 08-25-2004 at 20:35:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thanks to all of you for your honest input. Its just as I suspected, a mixed bag. Clear as mud, lol. I guess I am just going to have to do what I think is right for my family. My Mama pressures me into liking Publix, and it is enjoyable, peaceful, not so crowded, and its nice to be with my Mama. I still have to make a seperate run to Walmart for the other things I don't get at Publix. Even Daddy had her in there the other day, she didn't like it, but they carry these shoes he likes. I guess there is no easy answer. Thanks again for the input. :)


toolman    Posted 08-25-2004 at 20:41:11       [Reply]  [No Email]
im sure my answer helped alot , i musta been the clear as mud one huh.lol


Patria    Posted 08-25-2004 at 20:54:43       [Reply]  [No Email]
The answer looks clear enough to me, Kelly..:-)

I guess kl's wally world will remain open for at least three more months...and maybe also the one in Montana..:-)



toolman    Posted 08-25-2004 at 21:45:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
montana , they got a wallyworld in big sky country,geeze ain,t no place scared anymore, well at least not in the part i go too most often.


BW    Posted 08-25-2004 at 20:25:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
If you done mind one of them talers logg'n in on this one ,,,,We buy from a local family run food store they have 5 or 6 locations . The prices and selections run average for the area maybe a penny or two more , but the quality is much better and local produce if in season granted that we also shop at other off cost stores for some items . As to shopping at the Wallyworld it has not happened yet , but we do not live at/for the place ...JMHO
Bill G.


WHO LEFT THE DOOR OPEN!    Posted 08-26-2004 at 05:04:04       [Reply]  [No Email]
8^D...mojo


dig    Posted 08-25-2004 at 18:33:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
We get our groceries from Pic n' Save. It's a small chain that has decent prices, decent selection, really good oatmeal and raisin cookies from the bakery, and a great produce/deli/fruit section.

I buy 3 things at walletworld. Listermint mouthwash because I can't find it anywhere else. Cheap shirts to use for work - kinda treat 'em as disposable shirts. And blank CD-Rs because they're the cheapest place for name brand. Everything else I buy somewhere else.


Dave Munson    Posted 08-25-2004 at 18:31:07       [Reply]  [No Email]
Aldi's for as much as possible

When was the last time you filled up the station wagon with groceries for $100?

Walmart for what makes sense
Alwin's brothers butcher shop for the meat
GFS for what makes sense

The local mom & pop IGA is typically 40 to 200 % more expensive (or more) on most items. I avoid them as much as possible.


Chad K    Posted 08-25-2004 at 18:20:41       [Reply]  [No Email]
The truth? No problem.
I need 2 stores to get everything I need.
1) Walmart
2) Farm & Fleet
3) Borders

Maybe I'm wrong, but I shop where I can get the best deals. Yes, I'm aware that there are other places that sell item so and so cheaper than Walmart. One item here and there. All in all, it makes more sense for me to go to Walmart.
Yes, it might make a person feel good to go to those "mom and pop" places, but my dollars only stretch so far


oops, make that 3...    Posted 08-26-2004 at 03:50:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
nt


Dave 2n    Posted 08-25-2004 at 18:16:29       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Sounds like a bunch of Marxist Liberals complaining about capitalism and free enterprise.


Gunner    Posted 08-25-2004 at 17:47:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
Mom & Pop
Besides, the smaller X-mart stores ya pass along the way to W. Mart are smaller and less confusing


mojo    Posted 08-25-2004 at 17:40:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
I avoid Wal-mart as much as possible. And it seems to get tougher everyday.

Besides, who wants to buy their food where they buy their underwear!


Chas in Me    Posted 08-25-2004 at 17:36:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
We have three grocery stores in town. We shop at all three. I don't want to lose any more stores to Wally.
A lot of people shop across the border. They will be the first ones to whine when we lose our grocery stores. They will ask, "Why did that store close?"
BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO SAVE A FEW PENNIES AND SHOPPED IN CANADA. Most people don't understand the effect of their actions.
Chas


toolman    Posted 08-25-2004 at 17:38:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
chas thats strange canadians shop in the states to save money , even with our lower dollar we save money by shopping in the states at least in montana i do.


big al    Posted 08-25-2004 at 17:31:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
I love walmart-I will not be happy until there is one on every corner-whoops almost there.


Bornfree    Posted 08-25-2004 at 17:12:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
The WalMart family is the richest in the world and they pay there help squat !! NO Benifets no vacation. They can afford to share the welth and chose not to All the money they give to a community is a big tax deduction so they won't have to pay taxes !


Bob Mi    Posted 08-25-2004 at 17:03:57       [Reply]  [No Email]
In Michigan we have a chain called Meiers that is excellent . I'm wouldnt go to walMart if I had to gro my own !! I'v seen what they did to the small stores up here there making everybody slaves with low pay


BOSS    Posted 08-25-2004 at 17:02:01       [Reply]  [No Email]
We do all of our grocery shopping at Meijers. They were a Mom and Pop store years ago, now look at them.


toolman    Posted 08-25-2004 at 16:22:37       [Reply]  [No Email]
hey kel, after giving your question a whole lot of thought and mullin everything over in my head and finishing supper, i have arrived at an answer, i get most of my groceries out of the fridge and cupboard. hope this helps with your survey.lol


George in TX    Posted 08-25-2004 at 16:17:47       [Reply]  [No Email]
Kelly I had the misfortune of having to work for a Wal-Mart Super Store for about 6 months when I was really, really down on my luck. Thank goodness I didn't have to stay there very long. I worked in produce, stocking shelves (that's what most all employees do, stock shelves). The meat market was right next door so I got to know the folks working there and visited that department from time to time. I'll tell you from personal experience that I wouldn't buy one head of lettuce or one package of hamburger meat from Wal-Mart. Ever.

These two departments were kept pretty clean so that wasn't the problem. The problem was that both departments were understaffed, well the whole store was actually, and foods that were supposed to be kept cold were often left out to completely thaw or get warmer than normal until the grunts had a chance to get them into the coolers. Rotten food was left on the shelves in the produce department causing rot in the surrounding food. It might be days before someone was able to rotate the produce to throw away the rotten stuff and replace it with "fresh" produce. Yuck!

As for the Mom and Pop stores, good luck. Wal-Mart has probably run them all out of business as that's what they do best. And you're right about the prices on the essentials. They're cheaper on that type of product but pay close attention to the prices you'll pay for less essential items. Lots of times Wal-Mart will be considerably higher on luxury items and actually take a loss on the essentials, just to get you in there. That's how they make a profit. That and buying by the train load instead of the truck load.

I usually don't boycott anyone but in this case I'll have to take sides with your Mom.


Cosmo    Posted 08-25-2004 at 16:35:04       [Reply]  [No Email]
George, I'm with you on the perishables. I threw a couple of packs of hamburger meat in my cart. At the check out I asked the girl if she had a dead mouse around the register. After she rang me up I stuck my nose in one of the bags and took a good sniff. GAG A MAGGOT!!!!. She asked would I like to exchange the meat. I said "h-ll no give me a refund." No more meat from there. Other wise no gripes about Wal-Mart.


KellyGa..Here    Posted 08-25-2004 at 16:18:01       [Reply]  [No Email]
is an example of why Mama wants to not go there. I don't know, I like Walmart. When you have to make a dollar stretch, it stretches further there, and I have to go where I can afford to go.


AOL Membership? ?    Posted 08-25-2004 at 16:24:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thats what I got from the link?


JB    Posted 08-25-2004 at 16:26:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yeah, what's with the AOL membership link? I don't click on anything AOL.


KellyGa    Posted 08-25-2004 at 16:32:36       [Reply]  [No Email]
OOPS sorry, I guess it wont let anyone not on aol read the article :(


toolman    Posted 08-25-2004 at 16:33:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
i got the same thing.


I tried    Posted 08-25-2004 at 16:47:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
to cut and paste the dang thing, but every time I try to post the article, it says Website Not Responding GRRRR!!!!!!!!


Kellyb    Posted 08-25-2004 at 16:17:01       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I hate shopping at Super Wal=marts! Not for any
political type reasoning.. I just hate the size o
them.. One you have to trek 5 miles in from the
parking lot.. then trek another 20 miles around
the store.. not that I couldn't use the exercise..
it just takes so long! I'd much rather stop in a
small store where I can pick up a few things..
and get out the door pretty quick, like my
hometown store of IGA..(Independent Grocers Assn.)
other than that.. I have meat in the freezer and
canned and frozen veggies in the shelves. That's
my 2!kb0


Lori    Posted 08-25-2004 at 16:09:06       [Reply]  [Send Email]
We don't have a super Wally World yet, so I get my groceries at Thriftway or Safeway. Mom & Pop's are too expensive here in OR. I'm new to the room. Why is Wally World being banned?


Maggie/TX    Posted 08-25-2004 at 21:18:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
I'm not exactly sure Lori, but it may have something to do with how Wal-Mart treats it's employees. I DO know they are guilty of not allowing thier employees to unionize and will fire them if they even hear them talking about it. I also know they pull a fast one called a "Dead peasant's policy." (Not sure who coined that term, but I think it was whoever blew the whistle on them for it.) How it works is that the employees have minimal insurance available with the company, but the company has insured the employee to the hilt with a life insurance policy where when the employee dies Wal-Mart collects instead of the employee's survivors. Nice, huh?


GeneSC    Posted 08-25-2004 at 16:00:36       [Reply]  [No Email]
Altho I'm not "overly excited" about going to
Wal-Mart, let me say that I do shop there,
(when I need to) They DO have almost anything
you need, and their return policy can't be beat.
My wife does most of our grocery shopping there.
'oh yeah?? Why are we banning walmart? I'm always ready for a good "Worthwhile" Protest :>)


Gerrit PR    Posted 08-25-2004 at 15:57:21       [Reply]  [No Email]
Here we go:

To start with the bad guys, we go to Sam's Club ( owned by Walmart ) to buy stuff like coke, orange juice, cheese, frozen stuff, meat, detergent. This is maximum 2x per month.
The daily things we buy in a close by supermarket ( Grande or Pueblo - local PR chains)
Then there is El Rey del Cruce ( the king of the intersection ), our Mom and Pop grocery, open 7 days. Conveniant, round the corner and you meet everybody there because they also operate a bar where locals drink a beer..
Fresh stuff like avocados, lemons, pana, bananas, plantains, spices and herbs, passion fruit and other stuff comes from the own garden or from family and friends who grow them. Great quality and it's free, well it's a matter of give and take. We have bananas, you have avocados. You get the picture..


Donna from Mo    Posted 08-25-2004 at 16:19:48       [Reply]  [No Email]
Oh yeah, I forgot about Sam's Club. We go there about once a month, also.


Donna from Mo    Posted 08-25-2004 at 15:46:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
About once a month we will do all our grocery-shopping at WalMart. Our closest Wal Mart, although it's a "super" one, is pretty small, and they don't carry all the brands of groceries.


Pitch    Posted 08-25-2004 at 16:38:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
We go to Wal mart for Soft goods motor oil and the like. Never do we buy groceries there. The meat just plain sucks! We go to a local independently own chain grocery for evryday stuff and meat. Meats are mostly locally produced the butcher (not a meatcutter) is a friend as is the owner of the store. The meat has nothing added like wally world does. Once a month we go to town to a big grocery and buy major groceries. When Walmart built a Superstore 25 miles away Jack the owner of this grocery knew he could not compete head to head so he became the best local meat and produce guy in the areawhile still maintaining a full grocery line. It may seem to be more expensive but you are not paying for added water and presevatives 18% by volume. When you throw a beef pattie on the grill it shrinks by a quarter not 2/3rds. Besides the quality of the product the quality of the service can't be beat. I once got to the register and flipped the check book open to find it empty,did I put stuff back? No! "just sign the receipt Pitch and pay me when you come back to town" This guy employs probably 30 local folks and has probably given half the kids in school their first job for the last 20 or so years. Keep your Walmart as long as I can help support my friends and neighbors I will continue to do so. We also have a hardware and pharmacy that operates about the same way.


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