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Horse/Cattle parasites
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Sned    Posted 04-15-2002 at 16:57:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
I am fairly new at the livestock thing, can someone please tell me if cattle and horses show any signs when parasites are present? I know I am supposed to worm them so I bought a tube of Safe-Guard dewormer today. It seemed the simplest and least expensive (compared to Ivomec). How did the old timers take care of parasites before the advent of all these medications on the market today?


screaminghollow    Posted 04-15-2002 at 22:11:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
Some oltimers put black gun powder in dogs food for worms. A vet told me it would just give the dog a belly ache. Diamotaceous Earth (sp?) is some fossilized shell powder which sharp edges which is supposed to be a good "organic" wornmer. It will also kill some garden pests.
The diagnosis for worms in horses in that one post sounds like colic, which is often fatal to horses and not always caused by worms. In the mid atlantic states we got hit hard by Potomac horse fever last year which is caused by some little parasite in slugs or snails. We lost our best mare last year. we treated the fever but she got fever founder before the fever came down. She just got worse and we had to "put her down." Deer, possums, wild fowel and other critters carry all kinds of parasites that can be "dropped" in a pasture. So it is best to worm every three to four months anyway. I would rotate wormers. Safegard, then ivermectin, then safegard then moxidectin and so on. My vet says the pyrantel wormers aint't worth "droppings" When they are scratchin their butts or other parts that they are wearin off the hair, they need wormed. Don't worm just one, worm everybody in the pasture or they will just reinfect each other.


keith    Posted 04-15-2002 at 19:40:23       [Reply]  [Send Email]
i use copper pennies in the water bowl for my dog will kill the worms and not hurt the dog. And my grandpa said that chewing tobacco would kill worms in horses just feed it to them a package or two.


LazyHorse    Posted 04-15-2002 at 18:54:52       [Reply]  [No Email]
I prefer Ivomec or equimectrine generic for horse worming, but rotate with safeguard or something similar every few months. Horse will usually scratch their tails off on anything available f they start getting wormy. Ivomec really isn't that expensive if you find a reasonable supplier and not in the yuppie stores.


Sned    Posted 04-15-2002 at 20:08:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
I haven't seen the old boy doing anything out of the ordinary. I hate to worm him if it's not needed. We bought him last year for our daughter who loves him with all her little heart and want to do all the right stuff for him to be healthy. People are amazed that he will just stand there not tide up when our daughter is brushing him, he's about as easy going a horse I've ever seen. Perks up and acts like a happy dog does when we walk into the field. ( 9 year old standard breed ).


LH    Posted 04-15-2002 at 21:51:04       [Reply]  [No Email]
We've got several horses, plus donkeys and a mule. Most horses will stand to be brushed cause they like the sensation. I bought an older walking horse mare for my boy, and he can ride that horse standing up on her back or la on the ground under she is one good gentle horse.


DJ .......... ole timers treatments.    Posted 04-15-2002 at 17:24:32       [Reply]  [No Email]
clip........


Symptoms of Worms in Horses.

Stamping forcibly on the ground with either of his fore-feet, and frequently striking at his belly with his hind ones. Belly projecting and hard - looking frequently behind him, and groaning as if in great pain.

Remedies for Worms.

Keep the horse from all kinds of food for one day; at night give him a small quantity of warm bran mash, made as usual, and directly after, a ball made of 1 scruple of calomel, 1 scruple of turpeth mineral, and as much crumb of bread and honey as will form the mass. Next evening give him a pint of castor, and half a pint of linseed oil. The animal is then to be fed as usual for two or three days, and the same plan again to be employed.
In the fall, when the horses are first taken from grass, bots may often be expelled by giving them brine (four or five ounces of salt to one quart of water) following a drench of sweetened milk. Oil of turpentine is also a powerful vermifuge; four ounces may be given in a pint of gruel, fasting previously. An almost certain cure for bots is the nux vomica, called vulgarly dog-buttons. Rasp the whole of one of the nuts, and pour upon it a pint of boiling water. Let it cool to bloodheat, and then drench the horse with it; having, about half an hour before, bled him in the mouth, so that he would swallow the blood, which draws the worms into the stomach from the mucous membrane, into which they fasten themselves.

Ole Timers Ways

Powdered glass was given to dogs infested with worms.........



Sned    Posted 04-15-2002 at 18:22:41       [Reply]  [No Email]
That's interesting D.J. The old timers knew a lot more about life than we/I would think. It has always interested me as ta how they come up with they're remedies, probably killed a whole lot of critters before they got some of it right. Thanks for the link, it's book marked.


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