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Prayers for the innocents
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Len....NY    Posted 09-03-2004 at 12:35:04       [Reply]  [No Email]
What grief and sadness has befallen Those innocent babies and families in Russia. The terrorists have no borders. It is my oppinion that nations that refused to join us or ,capitulate to those killers demands, will they themselves be visited by this kind of horror.
This could have been here folks. A silent prayer please while we fill our magazines.


screaminghollow    Posted 09-03-2004 at 20:06:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
these terrorists have the upper hand and know it. They use our technology and freddoms against us. They only care about killing us at the same time they kill themselves.
The Russians ought to line up ten Chechen rebels for each innocent killed and publicly subject them to extremely cruel deaths.
These people have no regard for their own lives so long as they can kill innocent civilians. They do not have the bravery and courage to face an army.
If that were ever to happen in the US, the anger of the public and demands to bomb civilians in the middle east would be overwhelming.
John Kerry's solution, according to the campaign commercials on TV here, is that he "would tell the terrorists that they are going to lose." Quite frankly, that scares me. These people think it is their religious duty to die killing Americans. The surest way for them to go to their great reward is to die in the process of trying to kill Americans. For them it is a no lose situation. How in the world will "telling them they will lose" discourage them from doing anything? It is the stupidist campaign commercialo I have ever seen.


SusieQ    Posted 09-04-2004 at 06:24:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
Quite frankly, all the presidential ads...suck, and are so stupid...........I think I will write in Micky Mouse's name for president...at least we know what he is....hehehehe.


Willy-N    Posted 09-03-2004 at 20:49:56       [Reply]  [No Email]
I just watched a big story on the Chechen problem and am confused? I heard the Russians have leveled there city once allready and killed many of there people & children befor this happened. The news of what is going on in there area is being told to the rest of us only the way they want it told. I am not saying what happen is right and I am against any killing in this manner for any reason!! But what I would like to know what is the other side of the story after seeing what I did on TV tonight. Propaganda can twist things around and it is a shame countrys like that do not have the free press (Even tho ours is twisted too sometimes) to get the truth out. I am not sure about this new leader in Russia and his way of running things are not causing part of this. He used that war to get into office and took over the Press and leveled there city to gain his posision as a leader. Man I sure wish I could know the truth about the plite of some of these people in the world as to understand why they do things this horrible to children! I probley will never know and sure glad I live in the USA! I saw what they did in Veitnam and the way people were scared and controled. Only if we realy knew could we do something about it? Mark H.


Willy-N Like This?    Posted 09-03-2004 at 21:08:37       [Reply]  [No Email]
This is a story that I read.
Over the period of the anti-terrorist operation in Chechnya, the Federal Forces destroyed from 12 to 13 thousand rebels total, presidential spokesman for Chechnya Sergey Yastrzhembsky announced on Tuesday. He also said that current quantity of guerillas does not exceed 15 hundred men.
Yastrzhembsky, however, admitted that the Federals have not succeeded in destroying rebel leaders, like Khattab or Basayev brothers. ''Until these bandits are destroyed we cannot claim that we are effectively controlling Chechnya,'' Yastrzhembsky was quoted by "Ria-Novosti" as saying.
Yastrzhembsky denied the possibility of talks with the Chechen rebel leader and Ichkeria resident Aslan Maskhadov. ''He can not be a partner in negotiations, because he does not represent separatist guerillas,'' the presidential spokesman said. END of Story
Still do not understand they killed 12-13,000 of them and left 1500 gerillas or did they kill the wrong ones and left the bad guys?? It is hard to figure out?? Mark H.


donna in w.v    Posted 09-03-2004 at 15:48:43       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Cowards all of them.Terror visited on adults is horrendous enough but terror against children is simply the most vile thing on this earth. Anyone who would hurt a child desires to burn in hell for eternity.


Willy-N    Posted 09-03-2004 at 14:10:42       [Reply]  [No Email]
It was a No Win deal haveing to go in there to get them out. Has to be done but when dealing with those kinds of Cowards the out come will allways be the same innocents killed! Maybe the Democrats will under stand why Bush is doing what he is doing concerning these types of people! So sad to see so many lose there lives for nothing! Mark H.


Len....NY    Posted 09-03-2004 at 14:28:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hey Willey,I hope that a lot of eyes are opened soon. I don't like the rage I feel when something like this happens to innocents. I had to delete the rest of my thoughts, not to be PC, but because this is a family forum.


Willy-N    Posted 09-03-2004 at 14:40:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
These things affect me alot since I got back from Vietnam. If more only understood we need to take a stand and do something and not let them take control! When more of this comes to the USA there will be a lot of I told you so's!! Mark H.


toolman    Posted 09-03-2004 at 14:50:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
BBC is just reporting that 100 bodies found, 200 belived dead so far dead 550 to 650 injured and that the terrists were of arab decent.


Dieselrider    Posted 09-03-2004 at 13:06:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
I was just reading the story on MSN. I cannot fathom what kind of mind it takes to kill kids. Do they really think they can win favor for their cause by these kinds of actions? They claim these actions are favored by their God. Probably so because their God is not a God at all but satan himself. What shock they will have when they stand before the real God. Those poor kids and their families.


big fred    Posted 09-03-2004 at 13:14:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
I would recommend reading "The Strategic Logic of Suicide Terrorism". It's a white paper for the military describing why these terrorists do what they do. It's quite long, though. The upshot is that it works, they get the results they want 55% of the time. Military action is only successful 10-15% of the time. I don't know if those numbers are in the document I linked, they were in the presentation I saw related to that article, though.


Dieselrider    Posted 09-03-2004 at 15:05:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
Big Fred, I didn't read the attachment because I don't care why they do what they do. As to it working, perhaps we should learn f4rom it and turn it around. How about everytime a group does something like this we find out who are involved and annihilate all the members of their families that can be rounded up around the world? Does this seem too extreme? I bet it would slow down their attacks though, if the price for these attacks were high enough. I don't think we will win these wars with conventional thinking and fighting.


toolman    Posted 09-03-2004 at 15:42:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
i agree , gotta fight fire with fire, your dealing with ,i hate to use the word people or human beings because in my eyes they are neither, perhaps Isreal is on the right path blowing up family homes, only maybe they should stop vacating them first,.


~Lenore    Posted 09-03-2004 at 15:40:21       [Reply]  [No Email]

I do not believe those terrorists care for "their families". They are just possessions to them, expendible if necessary. Women and children are replaceable When they die.


Len....NY    Posted 09-03-2004 at 15:50:03       [Reply]  [No Email]
IF thats so, what a contrast to most of us in this country.Looks like it might be time to butcher a hog and save the blood for future use.


rhouston    Posted 09-03-2004 at 12:44:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
yes they have my prayers also. however the Russians don't fool around with terrorists, they send in the military. what do you think the response would have been had it happened in an American school ?


toolman    Posted 09-03-2004 at 12:41:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
it sure is sad len i just caught a bit of it on the radio, they said over a 100 killed and about 400 in the hosiptal , don,t know how updated that is, makes you wonder what kind of savages roam this earth , hopefully russia will deal with them and their kind in a way that the news media will find totally unacceptable, don,t think putin cares too much what ccn will say.


Aprille    Posted 09-03-2004 at 18:40:35       [Reply]  [No Email]

The saddest part of this is they killed the babies..why the babies?? Makes no sense..and were these terrorists Russian also?? This bothers me as I am Italian/Russian..I watch things about where my families originated..this is beyond contempt..the cowards!!


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