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Salmoneye    Posted 02-24-2001 at 17:31:33       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I don't know how I missed it before, but I did not see your post about a utility ATV before tonight.

If you want to take a look at the only real 'All Terrain Vehicle' presently made, check out the link below.
Don't forget to download the video under the 'Gallery' heading on the left!

These things will pull a logging arch, push snow and drive you across the pond.

General disclaimer: I ain't got a dime in it and I am not a Max Rep.

I just want one for duck hunting :)

Robert    Posted 02-28-2001 at 13:25:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
I had a MAX for several years. I didn't think then, and i don't think now that it was/is the "only real" ATV. They DO get stuck, (easier than you think) and are a major pain to get unstuck just like every thing else. They ride like a lumber wagon, and my back couldn't take that these days! I could go on, but i'll just say, i'd rather have a 4wd 4wheeler than a MAX any day. (and i do) :~) Much better ride, more reliable, and quieter. NO, it won't go in the water, but wait till you get stuck comeing out of the water with a MAX!!!!!!

Salmoneye    Posted 03-01-2001 at 04:53:36       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Thanks for the info!

Did you have the oversize tires?
Did you have tracks for snow and mud?...What was the pitch of the incline you tried to come out of the water at?
Did you ever use it for 'work' or anything other than riding around?

Thanks Again!

Robert    Posted 03-03-2001 at 19:57:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yes i had over size tires, i forget what size they were though.
No i didn't have tracks.
The problem with most water is, that if there's a small lip, or even the smallest bank that you have to climb out onto, the wheel splashes water up, and they just won't grip well enough to pull you out. I all so used another brand 6 wheel drive, and it did have tracks. I would rate it the same in climbing out of ponds. Tracks do help some in mud, and snow though.
They will pull a pretty good load, but you won't be pulling any bigger logs with it. It will work with a log arch, but so will my 4wd 4wheeler. My 4wheeler gets into the woods better because it's a lot narrower, and i don't bust up the new growth trees as bad!
The pull behind mowers have the problem of takeing a huge amount of room to get them turned around. Other garden tools can be replaced with a tractor and quality Rotovator (tiller) like the one Howard Rotovator co. sells.
I like a tractor for logging, and a 4wd 4wheeler for the rest. There's just NOTHING made that does it all!!! I even had a Cushman Trackster for a few years. It's by far the best of the non-4wheelers, but it had it's own set of problems!!

Salmoneye-Thanks Again!    Posted 03-04-2001 at 05:09:42       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I appreciate the followup!

I still want one for duck hunting though


JJ    Posted 11-23-2003 at 23:36:21       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I climbed out of a Pond in my Max 11 last night-11/23/2003 after it's initial water test. The dam was very steep and it climbed out and never spun a tire. My cousin ran up and said give me a high five, and get out, I'm next. I was fairly suprised and very pleased. Also, mine was a used Max and with a little TLC, I now have a Duck Hunting machine. I would not sell it for less than $4000.00 no way. JJ

Robert    Posted 03-04-2001 at 05:44:38       [Reply]  [No Email]
They make a nice rack for a 4wheeler that allows you to put a small boat or a canoe on top. I see these a lot in my travels to northern Ontario Canada.
I've come to the conclusion you need about 4 or 5 different ATV's, and a magic button to put you in the right one at the right time!! :~)
I've mentioned on this site before, that i lived in Alaska for many years (25), and i've seen and used about every ATV to come along. All of my old friends are useing 4wd pu's ect, and when they won't go, they use 4wd 4wheelers these days.
I can honestly say, that i'd not trade even my old Yamaha Kodiak wwheeler, even up today for 2 new Max's! That is, if i had to keep them and use them! One may work out for you though??

InVermont    Posted 02-25-2001 at 11:35:02       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Thanks for the tip- Do you know anyone who already owns one of these? After looking at the site, it seems they are mostly people movers and I want to get a few more jobs done with my atv (mainly, brush hogging, dragging logs out of the woods for firewood, and maybe post hole digging, if I can find an attachment for that)

Salmoneye    Posted 02-26-2001 at 05:58:56       [Reply]  [Send Email]
The quick answer is , no.
I do not know of anyone with one at the moment.
I have seen a few over the years though.
I knew a guy in the seventies that had a plow on the front, and a winch on the back of one.
He also used to mow about 3 acres of lawn with a set of old gang mowers from a golf course.
I have seen a couple in duck swamps too. The suckers will go right along in the water and then just ease up to a bunch of cattails and keep on going right up and over. Impressive.
They will easily pull one of the small logging arches that are designed for an 'ATV'.
The best bet to see one is contact the company through the 800 number and find the closest dealer. I am about 10 miles south of Burlington, but the closest dealer used to be in St. Albans.
Where are you? How much land do you have?

How are you planning on running a 'brush-hog' with an ATV? Are there small models with their own motor? Do ATV's have PTO's?

I have been following your questions here with interest, and it almost sounds like you are getting to the point where you should be looking at a tractor instead of an ATV. For the same price that you are thinking of paying for an ATV, you could have one heck of a used tractor in the 25-40 HP range with a few toys, er...I mean, Implements with it. There are somewhere near 400 tow-behind and 3-point implements out there for tractors. You would be hard pressed to find near that amount designed for use with an ATV.
I plow my drive, snake logs and pull a 5 foot brush-hog with my 1948 Ford 8N. Some days I wish I had a few more 'modern' features and a tad more power, but so far I have not failed to get a job done due to these constraints. Just takes a bit longer and a little more thought.

InVermont    Posted 03-01-2001 at 18:34:09       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I was also considering a tractor, until I thought about climbing the hills around here (I live in Corinth) and was concerned about jackknifing the thing with a heavy load- I suppose if you're not careful, you could do some serious damage on any type of machine, but I thought the ATV would be a bit more versatile. Besides, I may want to take all the implements off and ride up the old logging road to check out my property at the height of land... I suppose I could do that with a tractor too, just a little slower. Somehow, for the snow plowing and dragging trees out of the woods, the ATV seemed like it would be easier to maneuver with less "training".

F14, Hey Salmoneye    Posted 02-26-2001 at 15:33:36       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yes, indeedy, there are small 'hogs with their own engines, 11-12 horse or so. My SIL has one, 4' with a Honda engine, electric start, and a control unit that clamps to the back rack on his 'wheeler. Slicker than a smelt.

I'm gonna borry it this summer to clean up some trails in my woodlot where I can't take the tractor cause it's too tippy and too narrow.

Only downside is that the height adjustment is via a handcrank.

Salmoneye-Thanks F14!    Posted 02-27-2001 at 03:59:33       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I appreciate the education!
I have never looked into the toys that are available for ATV's. The only reason I know that they have small logging arches for them, is because I see one down the road from here set up in front of a dealership. They have a pretty good size log in the sucker for display.

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