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KatG    Posted 09-07-2004 at 07:55:35       [Reply]  [Send Email]
If you have read my earlier posts you know we got Jersey cows..or should I say a very pregnant cow and 4 month old bull calf..Well to make along story short..his morning we got a call from the dairy where we got our little herd from...they are going into the chicken house business for Tyson..so they are getting out of the dairy business as soon as they chicken houses get into full swing..The call from the dairy was concerning alittle new heifer calf...born yesterday...she is a twin...seems her MAmma had a heifer calf and alittle bull calf..We don't want another bull calf but she said she would sell is the regfistered heifer calf for $200 ...Here's the deal...she told us right from the get go that sometimes when a cow has twins of different sexs that the heifer might be female on the outside but no have female organs on the inside..So that would mean no breeding and no milking I guess..My questions are...1> Does a cow have to have a calf before she will starting producing milk or is theres some type of shot you can give them to stimulate the females hormones to kick in and result in lactation? 2>Have any of ya'll ever heard of something like the "twin" deal or dealt with it personally??
We are suppose to go get the calf this afternoon around noon so I am leaving my puter on and hoping I hear from someone...Thanks alot ...KatG


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KatG    Posted 09-07-2004 at 18:47:27       [Reply]  [Send Email]
How wonderful it is to know I have such a great wealth of knowledge available...Ya'll are so appreicated...We went ahead and got the calf..Figured if we can't breed her and milk her we will put her in the freezer are sell her...which would come closer to to happening..Got a vet to finally call me back and there is a blood test they can do now to see if she is a she all the way through or not...There is a "probe test" also but the vets here didn't have the tool necessary ..So it is a toss of the coin...with not good odds..
The little calf is beautiful ...we named her Sugar...as in Brown Sugar...She is 24 hours old...Taking her bottle real good..Maybe the calf our cow is expecting will be alittle heifer..Again thank ya'll so much for the info...beleive you me it is appreicated and anymore that you have on Jersey Cows and chickens lets start a conversation..Heres something else...MAtt...that is hubby...has got to installed our wood heater this week...we live in a mobile home with cathedral ceilings..Its an old trailor house with a pointy ceiling in real life..and we have a corrugated metal roof that the flue will have to go through...any ideas and suggestions would help greatly...we are in the dark at this and most other things...Thanks alot folks..KAtG


toolman    Posted 09-07-2004 at 20:30:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
one of our cows was a twin she was ok like i said, when she calfed we taught her to accept other day old calves that we were buying from the dairy, she raised us many calves some of her own and many little ones we picked up and put on here, she was as gentle as a kitten , we would lead her down the road to our other pasture on a halter just like walking a dog, she was the best one we ever had, good luck with your give her a chance ya never know.


Fern(Mi)    Posted 09-07-2004 at 16:18:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
KatG:
Willy, Linda, & EJ haven't steered ya wrong. Those dairy calves are already slaughter calves. Feed them and eat them. Keep a year finishing with 25pds corn per day for best marbling and flavor. Sorry, female not even an ideal market calf.
Mike, however: might have just made a pass at me. I got to think about that one? LMAO
With As for twins born of mix s3xs. We never fool with them. We feed them out and make freezer beef deals. Neither are mixed s3x births even considered for 4H club calves. We want to provide our kids and club calf buyers the best representative chances to do well with their calf projects in the 4H show rings.
Fernan


toolman    Posted 09-07-2004 at 12:15:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
we had one that came from twins and she was ok, you have to bred them to get milk though.


excellent post    Posted 09-07-2004 at 10:46:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
and excellent answers. I know nothing about and will never have to know anything about cattle, but I sure learned something by reading these posts. Just about the time I figured this forum had outgrown its original use, along comes a post like this. Thanks
REt


EngineerJoyce    Posted 09-07-2004 at 10:35:01       [Reply]  [No Email]
Bad News...You're paying too much for freezer beef. ditto other replies. No breeding, no milking, no use but for meat. Maybe a 4-H show calf. maybe.


Linda in Utah    Posted 09-07-2004 at 08:48:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
When a cow carries twins & they are male and female, most of the time the male hormones of the male fetus interfere with the deveopment of the reproductive organs in the female fetus early in gestation. When this happens, the female is called a freemartin. Sometimes the female developes a "blind pouch" instead of a functional vagina, or there are other internal reproductive abnomalities. A physical exam by a veterinarian can sometimes find the abnormalities. I understand there is now a blood test that can tell if the calf is a freemartin. Do a google search for freemartin and you'll come up with some informative material.


Mike in tn    Posted 09-07-2004 at 08:12:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
Don't plan on this calf ever breeding or giving any milk. I have never heard of one that did. However there are some on here alot more experienced than me. I am sure that Fern can answer all your questions about this.
Mike


Willy-N    Posted 09-07-2004 at 08:11:00       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yes the Cow needs to have a Calf to start produsing milk. When you have twins and one is a male and one a feamale there is a good chance 90% of the time the female will be sterile. Mark H.


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