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After the Storms??
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Willy-N    Posted 09-08-2004 at 08:46:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
Does every one throw away there plywood after the storms? I allway see people standing in line for plywood, water and battrys? It seems to me I would keep mine and have studs laged into the window areas to reuse instead of putting all those scews over and over again into the walls? Must be a lot of hole around the windows in those areas. The part that realy confuses me is I don't live in a area like that but I keep water, extra food, battrys, first aid kits ect in my home all the time. I even have a safe zone under the stairs which is the strongest place in the house. Now Gasoline that is another thing. I must have at least 100+ gals to use that is protected with Sta/Bil to make it last. I keep my vehicals full most of the time and I could allways take fuel out of anyone of them to add to another. Just can't figure why people don't bolt the edges of the metal roofs onto the eaves so they can't lift up and blow off the rest of the metal roof? It is just like fire season if you don't prepair your place will burn easy you need to trim the trees, mow the weeds and have the hoses ready. If every time we had a fire on the way I had to go to town to buy a water hose I would be in trouble and they would run out of hoses fast!! Just ranting a little it seems a lot of people want the FEMA People to rescue them when they could do a lot of it them selves ahead of time. What is wrong with this picture? Mark H.


Gary in Geneva    Posted 09-09-2004 at 07:59:41       [Reply]  [Send Email]
A lot of people do just that throw it away. Some buy particle board and it becomes waterlogged and has to be discarded. I built some reusable temporary shutters for a condo out of 3/4" sheets. They took some time to build and weigh a ton but will last a long time.

I used screws and glue between the 2x4 and plywood to make it even stronger. I guess that is why it took me two days to make them and another day for two of us to mount them.



OH Boy    Posted 09-08-2004 at 10:55:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
Mark,

I've lived in the west (CA, CO) the Midwest (KS, MO, ND), and now the east (OH) and in my opinion people out west are more likely to have your attitude about taking care of themselves. It seems like the further east you go the less the people have that way of thinking.

I see the plywood lines on TV too everytime they have a hurricane in Florida. Don't they keep it afterward? I would, who wants to go through that hassle more than once?

Its the same sort of thing here in OH - we have a big rain storm and next thing you know the TV News is interviewing someone who says 'We bin flooded out six times now, and we're gitt'in tired of it!'

Why are they still living there? Why does the flood insurance program keep paying their flood claims? Get 'em out of there.

The thing that irks me is when people don't prepare to take care of themselves, it costs all the rest of us dearly when the government has to come to their rescue because of it.


Willy-N    Posted 09-08-2004 at 14:23:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
I sure would do things different if I got flooded out! At least I would have a good pump to remove water and a way of sealing up the house better to keep it out. If I built a new house it would be higher off the ground with blow out walls for heavy flows of water if that could happen where I live. Just makes sence to build them to the area you live in. We still have people with shake roofs in the forest and man can they burn with only a ember landing on them! All my roofs are metal and they have soffet ends wraping around the ends and screwed down with extra screws. I had 80 mph winds hit my place once and nothing happen! Even the open front barn which everyone said I built way stronger then needed kept the roof on. I used twice as many huricane straps then required and doubled up on bracing in a lot of places. One problem is some walls/trusses are not nailed right to the top plates and the roofs just sit on top. They need to be tied into the studs and siding along with the walls bolted to the foundation and the bottom plates nailed into the walls and siding good. Mark H.


toolman    Posted 09-08-2004 at 09:34:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
i often wondered about things like that , i have lived through hurricanes and know how bad they can be, but i don,t think they have the same building codes in some places that we do,we have snow loads etc. to consider, i see trusses now that are built to withstand higher winds with hurricane ties, but with older homes that wouldn,t apply and of course with the type of storms the these folks have been through lately im not sure they would be much help.we are pretty lucky here sure we have our wind storms with hurricane force winds but it,s over pretty quick and we have our cold an snow, but we have learned to deal with that, they have alot more people cramed into a smaller space looking for supplies than we do also,i couldn,t imagine having to live like that one storm after another, it must take its toll on them, think when we have fires close , how we are worried and don,t get alot of sleep at night, they seem to go through this week after week , now IVAN is on the way.that plywood must get awful expensive if they don,t keep it, i would think somebody would come up with some type of storm shutters that could be left on all the time and just closed when a storm was approaching,but i guess to really know what you would need and how to prepare (if you can) you would need to live there and go through it for a few years, not me though i,ll stay where im at.


VADAVE    Posted 09-08-2004 at 10:47:35       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Perminent (sp) hurricane shutters do exist but I suspect they are real expensive. Our neighbor has a home in Florida and closes it up during the summer with these shutters. From her discription they are the roll-up security doors mounted vertical and hidden behind a face alongside the windows.
Personally I tie everything together with hurricane ties or plumber's tape. When Isabell blew through Virginia last it came right into the open face of my building and nothing came off. Course it also helped that I built it facing a wooded area.


Buddy    Posted 09-08-2004 at 18:40:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
Where in Virginia are you located VaDave ?


Willy-N    Posted 09-08-2004 at 09:50:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
Your right it would be hard having one right after another not even having time to clean up between them!! Seems the lags with a set of threads on the other end would work and you cold just bolt the plywood on with a washer a lot faster and more solid. I also would be adding Huricane straps on the truses bolted into the side of the top plates thru the walls. Might even cable my porches down to concrete ancors then hide the cables under a wood trim for better up lift protection. Sure would go with well anchored metal roofs instead of shingles!! All those flying missles can take there toll along with 24 hours of wind instead of a few gusts! I will stick with the fires I feel I can fight them better! Mark H.


toolman    Posted 09-08-2004 at 10:02:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
see they caught a bunch of south koreans tryin to sneak through your area, was just on the news this moring, they were talking to a customs offical out of spokane, said they came through just south of oyossios(sp) and were picked up on your side in a vehicle, they caught them on the highway.


Willy-N    Posted 09-08-2004 at 14:11:04       [Reply]  [No Email]
They haven't figured out they stand out here big time!! In places like California & Seattle they can get away with that but not Okanogan!! Mark H.


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