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Craig    Posted 09-08-2004 at 18:06:48       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I was recently running water in the kitchen sink and the was reduced to a trickle, then stopped and nothing but air came out then, that stopped. There is a blue tank w/bladder and the pump is submersible. The well is about 125'. No circuit breaker has tripped. There is no pressure on the gage and no water coming to the tank under the house. We had the house built less than two years ago so, nothing is that old. I checked inside the well and there seems to be plenty of water. I don't think the pressure swich is bad.
Thanks for the help, I sure can use it.


fredo.    Posted 09-08-2004 at 19:50:02       [Reply]  [Send Email]
CHASE the wires back from the pump[well] to the breaker panel. some where in the elect. line there will be some kind of pressure switch. there will be some kind of contacts there. all kind of things can happen to them. there is a pressure swtitch gaurenteeeeded, for this pump.
fredo.


mud    Posted 09-08-2004 at 19:32:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
if you dont have that control box then check that pressure switch. thhem points have been knowed to stick, break, and in general cause a nussiance from time to time. you might be surprised what a new switch can do to a failed system. i been through it at the homeplace and down on the tar road house too.


ron,ar    Posted 09-08-2004 at 18:32:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
You did not say if the pump is running or not. Do you hear the motor running?


ron,ar    Posted 09-08-2004 at 18:34:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
oops, I didn't see the part about it being submerisable.


Craig    Posted 09-08-2004 at 18:38:40       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I do not know if the pump is running. It is not running as best that I can tell. When I had the top of the well off, I did not hear any noise at all.


Willy-N    Posted 09-08-2004 at 18:22:04       [Reply]  [No Email]
You have a control box for your pump some where near it. It will probley be 8 inches square or so. You should find a Red Reset button on the bottom of it. Check to see if it poped out and push it in. You could have a bad capasitor on the starting winding that is the silver or black tube inside the box. You also could have broke a wire down in the casing going to the pump due to flexing and rubbing of the wire on the side of the well casing. These are things that have happened to me over the years and easy fixes if you know how to check and fix. If you push in the red button and the pump comes on you realy haven't fixed it you need to find out why the over load kicked off. You could also have a bad pressure switch and it is not closing. It is a 2-3 inch gray square box plumbed into a pipe with wireing going into it. Turn the power off to the pump and remove the cover and look to see if the contacts are closed-(Run) open-(Off)if they are closed it is working most likely. Then make sure you haven't triped a breaker to the pump the breaker can look on and still be triped. Turn it all the way off hard then click it on hard to try to reset it. If the pump come on you still have a problem since the breaker was tripped. If any of this is over your head you might as well call a well installer to check the system over for what is wrong with it. Mark H.


Craig    Posted 09-08-2004 at 18:44:11       [Reply]  [Send Email]
As far as I know there is no control box close or anywhere near this pump as it is a submersible pump and is inside the well.


Ron/PA    Posted 09-08-2004 at 18:55:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
Craig, if you have a controll box, it could be in your basement. Some of them don't have a reset on them.
How many wires do you have going down the well? Some 2 wire systems don't have a controll box. If you find a box, and there's no reset, you may find the inside is burnt. Have you had a close lightning strike in the last 30 days, I've burned out 2 in the last 5 years from lightning and they both took a week or more to finally die.
Good luck
Ron


Craig    Posted 09-08-2004 at 18:59:32       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Thanks for the help. There are three wires going down the well to the pump (submersible). To the best of my knowledge there is not a control box. If there is, I have not seen one and I would not know where it would be, since the pump is down the well.


Willy-N    Posted 09-08-2004 at 22:45:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
A 3 wire pump normaly has a Black, Red Yellow and a green if wired corectly. Sometimes the 2 wire pumps use red, black and yellow only and use the yellow for a ground instead of green. You need to follow them to where they hook onto the power feeding them and see what they are hooked to and that way you will know the type of pump in your well. You should be able to hear the pump if you put your ear near the open pipe and hear it even with the cap on the pipe will viberate some. Mark H.


Jet9N    Posted 09-08-2004 at 19:14:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
Typically there is a small 3 X 3 or so box with
a circuit breaker for the pump either next to
the service for the house or near the water tank.
This breaker is in addition to the one in the
service for the house. Check both. As Mark said
if they are tripped it likely means there is a
short some where that may come and go.

Good Luck

Jet


Craig    Posted 09-08-2004 at 19:33:48       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Thanks. Do you think that there really is a circuit breaker box. I have been under the house where the tank is located and I have not seen anything like that. I have not seen one outside of the house either. Only the circuit breaker panel inside the house has the circuit breaker for the pump that I have seen. That was not tripped. I have tripped it on and off several times to see if it would reset the pump but, that did not work. Nothing short of pulling a practically brand new pump has worked.


Ron/PA    Posted 09-08-2004 at 20:17:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
Craig, most 3 wire systems have a controll box somewhere. Many don't actually have a breaker in them. It's more of a connection box, with a capacitor, and overload protection. Quite often the controll portion is in the lid, so that when you replace the lid, you replace the entire protection system.
It may well be just a plain grey electrical box, which will require you to remove screws to open it.
Ron


Craig    Posted 09-08-2004 at 21:27:11       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Thanks Ron, I will check around and under the house in the morning to see if there is some kind of control box. It does make sense to have one, although I have never personally seen one. I am guessing but, I think that it would probably be under the house around the tank since, the pump is a submersible and it would not be near that.


Craig    Posted 09-09-2004 at 18:13:37       [Reply]  [Send Email]
It works great today. The problem was a broken wire in the line near the pump in the well. The bladder in the tank had ruptured, thus not allowing pressure to stabilize in the tank. The pump was apparently jerking around in well and had worn one of the wires in to. The wire was replaced along with the bladder tank. Everything works just fabulous now.

Thanks everyone for all of your help.


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