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Ivan now catagory-5
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ron,ar    Posted 09-09-2004 at 08:47:10       [Reply]  [No Email]

borrowed from

Ivan has two basic track options as it heads farther west-northwestward. One option is that it curves northward toward the Bahamas and southeastern U.S. coast. This is less likely because the high pressure steering Ivan is expected to remain strong over the southeastern U.S., which would steer the storm northwestward. The second and more likely option takes the storm into the southeastern Gulf of Mexico Sunday night or Monday

Patria    Posted 09-09-2004 at 11:43:52       [Reply]  [No Email]
Just read a strong earthquake, magnitude 6.1, has been located in the CAYMAN ISLANDS REGION.

cachon    Posted 09-09-2004 at 11:57:37       [Reply]  [Send Email]
ws that the earthquake on AUgust 4th or has thre been a new one?

Patria    Posted 09-09-2004 at 12:21:59       [Reply]  [No Email]
A new one.

Dumb Question    Posted 09-09-2004 at 08:56:36       [Reply]  [No Email]
Granted I am no meteorologist or physicist but I have to ask this question.

Since hurricanes and typhoons get their strength from ideal water and air temperatures as well as the proper atmospheric pressure, why can't the egghead scientists develop some sort of device that eliminates one or more of the fuel sources for hurricanes. Take air temp for example. Create a device that can be dropped into the eye of a storm and can detonate at a low temperature and then release something like freon (I know you can't use freon though). Could it be sized properly to release enough "stuff" to significantly reduce the air temp? We can fly into hurricanes so this seems like a way to reduce the intensity or completely kill hurricanes.

There seems to be no good reason the "green" people could come up with by tinkering with Mother Nature like this. Let's face it. The hurricanes are nothing more than swirling death and devastation.

I dunno - just thinking out loud.

- Peanut

Dave Munson    Posted 09-09-2004 at 18:03:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
Ya ever think about the amount of energy being released by Ivan? All that wind and water moving around?

Probably more than a bunch of nuclear plants.

Be more constructive to hook up windmills and tidal generators and put Ivan to work.

michele in va    Posted 09-09-2004 at 19:21:57       [Reply]  [No Email]
we have the windmills now. plant several thousand along the florida coastline to catch some mega- wind energy and make that state pay taxpayers back for all the FEMA money it collects because it's in hurricane alley.

Gerrit    Posted 09-09-2004 at 16:29:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hey Peanut, I found some info about your question in the FAQ about hurricanes on the website of the national hurricane center - which I visit more than once daily, these days.

Look for Section C #5:

RedTail    Posted 09-09-2004 at 11:12:39       [Reply]  [No Email]
Heard once that the energy of a hurricane is equal to 5 atomic bombs. Plus, you cant just heat the eye. The eye is just the focal point where the "drain" effect occurs. You'd have to heat the whole mass of cold air the drops ober the mass of hot air.

I read a story during Francis about an engineer who built his own house to withstand Catagory 4 winds. Just used extra nails and the shingles, closer trusses, window shutters , that kind of thing. Seems that would be easier than dropping nukes on the Bahamas.

TomBoy    Posted 09-09-2004 at 11:24:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
What about Grenada? I like the Bahamas but the jury is still out for Grenada. LOL

Um...    Posted 09-09-2004 at 09:12:48       [Reply]  [No Email]
"The hurricanes are nothing more than swirling death and devastation"

Says you ;-)

They also give the earth life by bringing water to us...Sometimes more than we need at once...

You have to understand that the weather system of the Earth is a system with energy input from the Sun...

Deny that release of energy (storms) in one place, and the pressure will have to be let off somewhere else in the system, ie. somwhere else on the planet...

PS.....We don't have enough 'cold' anything to counter the energy influx from the sun...And damn good thing we don't, as IMHO, that would not be a good idea...

PPS.....Do a Google search on 'the butterfly effect'...And I don't mean the movie...


jfky    Posted 09-09-2004 at 16:39:21       [Reply]  [No Email]
energy cannot be created nor destroyed......I thought we all learned that in high school

mojo    Posted 09-09-2004 at 16:30:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
I've been reluctant to mention the absolutely perfect weather we've been having because I know it comes at a cost to others. I would be willing to spare alittle of this perfection if it would save someones home, but I really don't have a say in these things.

Hey Salmoneye    Posted 09-09-2004 at 10:56:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
In keeping with The Butterfly Effect, what if:

We are meant to create something that stops hurricanes.


If we don't, what will happen to the balance of the universe/Earth? :^)

- Peanut

Bah...    Posted 09-09-2004 at 11:10:47       [Reply]  [No Email]
One in every crowd...


Salmoneye, Flapping

PPPS.....    Posted 09-09-2004 at 09:24:33       [Reply]  [No Email]
Not a dumb question, BTW...


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