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Kids and Dogs Chasing Cows!
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Willy-N    Posted 09-09-2004 at 09:41:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
A property owner decided the Cows on there place last night should be chased away by there young children and family dog! It is open Range here and cows roam all over the place. If you don't want them on your place you fence them out. It seems last night the property owner decided to let his kids and dog chase them out and into the road at night! Well my wife was coming around the corner and out of no where a herd of cows running being chased ran across the road in front of her with 2 kids in the road and a dog at the heals of the cows!! My wife stopped as fast as she could but the cows were driven into the side of her and all around the truck. She ended up bumping 2 of them and trashed the Plastic Grill on the truck and bent the hood a little. Makes me mad now I get to pay the deductible on the insurance, cows not hurt and the kids said we are sorry! Dog still chasing the Cows down the road. Cows have the Right/Away on the roads here so I could have had to pay for them if they were killed! It is agaist the law to have your dog harrass the cattle and they can be shot for this. I should press the neibor for my deductibe but it would take a court case to do it. Upset with people who move into open range knowing good and well that cows are feeding in the area and the rules state you fence them out if you don't want them on your property but a lazy few just chase them with dogs and things like this happen. This is in the middle of Cattle Ranching and 10s of 1,000s of acres are involved. All these cows were sleeping/laying down when the dog & kids chased them into the road! Mark H.


bulldinkie    Posted 09-09-2004 at 14:22:57       [Reply]  [Send Email]
We dont have that problem with texas longhorns.People think theyll kill you so they stay away in reality theyre big babies.


Willy-N    Posted 09-09-2004 at 16:40:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
They stay away from our Longhorns and Scottish Highlands also since they have big horns too. Our bull has a nice set on him too that are impressive looking!! Mark H.


Fern(Mi)    Posted 09-09-2004 at 11:39:39       [Reply]  [No Email]
I have hunted, fished, and visited several open range states. Appreciate the problems, water locations, scarcity of grass. I can fully appreciate the reasons for fencing homesteads, barnyards, and gardens; not to mention, fenced E-way underpasses (and overpasses) and easements for passage of water, wildlife, livestock, man and machinery. Maybe some havenít noticed; but, the Federal Government canít even change those old cattle practices. Seems reasonably simple enough to fence in what you want saved or preserved.
Of-course some ranching wannabes want to bring along their big city restriction idears rather than work upon the rural, farm, or ranch practices, old time solutions and neighborly understanding already for them in place. It is their loss more so than the keepers of these lands.
Had a cop once tell me, he would be obliged to shoot my bull if he where seen running loose. Told the cop, ďYou would just have bought yourself $5,000.0 worth of meat. My bull would probably just go on grazing wherever he had the mind to eat and then take a nap. All you need do is call me. Iíll handle him from there, be it putting him back inside the fence or taking him home. Remember $5,000.00.
Fernan


KatG    Posted 09-09-2004 at 11:30:15       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Willy-N...I think I would be atalking to that fellow..and to the owner of the cows also..think I might be ataling to the law and the local cattlemens assc. too...We have registered Jerseys and you can get into deep do-do if something the cows does or doesn't do with the Jersey Cattlemens Assc.
I am so sorry about your truk and know it scared your wife ...thank goodness she didn't get hurt...KAtG


Willy-N    Posted 09-09-2004 at 11:50:16       [Reply]  [No Email]
We also have about 18 Cows on the Open Range right now. We worry about Dogs and speeding cars making them run and getting killed. There realy not much of a problem if left alone and they know the cars will stop for them it is the Calves you have to watch out for the most. They are young and don't know better so they will run out in front of you when you go by sometimes so you have to go slow when you see them just in case. Mark H.


Willy-N WOW!    Posted 09-09-2004 at 11:15:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
Just got the bill for the simple repair!! Over $2,400.00 to fix it! Glad there wasn't any dents just the plastic grill and hood replaced?? Mark H.


Bob/Ont    Posted 09-09-2004 at 17:33:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
Mark, nothing HITS like a DEER $8,000 Can.
Later Bob


Willy-N    Posted 09-09-2004 at 17:49:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hello Bob! Glad she was only doing about 5 MPH when they were bumped!! She needed 2 more feet to stop. Should have been driving the M-37 that bumper and grill would have showed no damage at all going that slow! Mark H.


Willy-N Better Now!    Posted 09-09-2004 at 11:54:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
Just called the insurance Company and they said they would cut a check for the amount less the $100.00 deductable. I was worried because I thought the 500.00 deductible was the one but since it was a cow it goes under the 100.00 one and no police report since another car was not involved or damage to anyones else stuff. Guess we lucked out this time! Mark H.


KatG    Posted 09-09-2004 at 12:16:30       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Good news Willy-N....Glad for you...KAtG


Ennis    Posted 09-09-2004 at 10:57:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
Don't wanta get into a debate over the stupid thing it was BUT If it were my private property I wouldn't want anyone elses cattle on it unless I had a range fee deal set up.
After all I paid for my property not some cattle owner.

Here in Ar a cattle owner is responsible to keep his or her property off others property, so I guess the laws there are different.


Willy-N    Posted 09-09-2004 at 11:13:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
In Washington State Open Range has lower Tax Rates on the land. It is also posted Open Range when you drive into the area which is fenced. When you go into the area you go over Cattle Gaurds across the roads. So you get a Tax Break on your place and you have to abide by the Range Rules if you live there. I don't like Cows in my yard either so I fenced them out but they roam on the other areas at will. Your fence has to meet Specs and if it does and it get destroyed by Cattle and you can prove whos they were by brand or ear tags they have to fix it and pay for damages done to your place so it goes both ways. Mark H.


Ennis    Posted 09-09-2004 at 11:25:33       [Reply]  [No Email]
ok now I see. As I said it is different here but it's neat learning about the different laws in different areas.
Thanks Willy N


KatG    Posted 09-09-2004 at 11:01:26       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Are you in Arkansas, Ennis or Arizona...I am in Arkansas and wondering if we are open range...KAtG


egh    Posted 09-09-2004 at 10:29:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
HOLDENVILLE, Okla. (AP) One man was killed and three others were injured early Monday when their vehicle struck a bull in Hughes County, the Oklahoma Highway Patrol said.

Douglas Wayne Hearod Jr, 27, of Holdenville, was killed in the 2:25 a.m. collision on U.S. 270.

Hearod's vehicle was eastbound when it struck a bull that was lying in the rain-slickened roadway, troopers said. The vehicle veered out of control, ran off the road and flipped end-over-end.

Three passengers suffered head and internal injuries, the patrol said. They were listed in serious condition Monday at hospitals in Oklahoma City and Tulsa.


Willy-N    Posted 09-09-2004 at 10:34:22       [Reply]  [No Email]
There have been several totaled Trucks/Cars on our road due to speeding and hitting a cow. You hit a Big Bull and 99.0% of the time you lose! They can weight allmost as much as a small car. We also have many Deer and Bears that cross the roads alot! Mark H.


Mike(Wi)    Posted 09-09-2004 at 10:18:29       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Your costs will be higher than just the deductable. There is about a 70% chance that your insurance cos. will raise your rates because of the claim--even if it isn't your fault....

Not only that, but they will probably repair the vehicle with cheap aftermarket parts that don't fit right and won't last. Big problem when its time to sell the car.

I would try to collect from the family that started it with a lawsuit if necessary. Hope that you filed a police report..that will make it easier.


Willy-N    Posted 09-09-2004 at 10:30:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
Haven't filed a Police Report as it happend late last night. The wife is just now getting a estiment on the repairs. We haven't had to make any claims on the insurance for over 18 years so it should not go up I hope! Mark H.


KellyGa    Posted 09-09-2004 at 09:54:20       [Reply]  [No Email]
I tell ya, people just don't think before they act. More and more, I am losing faith in the human race. As a whole, I figure there are more stupid people out there than smart people, and that is pretty scary.

I figure if your gonna live out where there are cows, chickens, whatever, you should LIKE to be around things like that. I don't understand people that move out to the country and then ruin where they are by trying to change it. YOu see me, I would LOVE to have cows wander into my yard! That would be NEAT!

It sucks that you have to put up with all that ruckus. I am sorry to hear it. I guess no matter where you go, you can't truly get away from stupid people. I would at least go tell the guy what happened, maybe, if he has an ounce of guts he will in the very least apologize.


Willy-N    Posted 09-09-2004 at 10:05:48       [Reply]  [No Email]
The Parents are Teachers and since I drive the school bus He will here about it soon. With out the Cows on the Range the fires would get out of hand allmost every time so they are needed. They keep areas trimed down under the trees and in the pasture grass areas. Mine trim all the grass around both sides of the fences you could not make them move out into the open areas the food is to good at home and they know it! They also are not scared of dogs and will chase them if they come near them when out in the feilds. I have dogs and they are allways fenced in. Moma Highland Cows with there Horns will do a job on one if they have a calf with them. Mark H.


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