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Another run in with the Wallmart crowd
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I had another run in with    Posted 09-19-2004 at 18:46:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
Does this just happen to me??
Today once again we went to the big city to go to the Wallmart. Upon leaving after paying for my stuff off goes the "inventory contol" alarm.
Thats the sensor that senses if you have unpaid merchandise on your person. It goes CUSTOMER, IT SEEMS WE HAVE FAILED TO REMOVE THE INVENTORY CONTROL TAG FROM YOUR MERCHANDISE, PLEASE RETURN TO...... This seems to happen to me alot. Not my doin of course. Today the Wallmart lady come at me kinda like a bull. In front of all the shoppers. Even the cashiers were watchin. The store was silent. Someone should tell Wallmart to get this machine looked at.
One day I,m goin back to the bush. I,ve had enough!

rhouston    Posted 09-20-2004 at 10:33:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
I've had the alarms go off also. Tops, and the cigarette store. I don't stop I just keep going. If they are going to use the devices they had darn well make sure they operate right. I think my stack of credit cards tripped the one at the cigarette store as that is all I had on me.

Dieselrider    Posted 09-20-2004 at 04:41:36       [Reply]  [No Email]
You might be interested to know that 10 to 15 percent of the price you pay at these stores is due to theft of merchandise. The magnetic strips are there to help eliminate these losses. The only reason they set the alarms off is because they haven't been de activated by the cashier or the person at the door.

Rowdy, I don't know what the law says in regards to you're not subjecting yourself or daughter to a voluntary search, probably depends on where you live, but, I do know that the store is private property and they do not have to let you back in either. Years ago I worked in a grocery store and the assistant manager there was real good at spotting shop lifters. They had a whole list of people along with their pictures posted that would be arrested if caught on the store property.

Rowdy Yates    Posted 09-20-2004 at 05:41:23       [Reply]  [No Email]
Sorry, I'll have to say that I have never been as rude as it may seem from reading my post. I do get my point across.....calm, short, and sweet, to the employees at Walmart, then just keep on walking and no one has ever gave me any hard time over it. My point is agreeing with the original post. After 3-4 times of getting stopped and cooperating at Walmart for no fault of my own, then I exercise my rights after that. As far as refusing a search, there are alot of laws on that subject, and Walmart employees are not "law enforcement", the last I checked, (unless they bought them out too). If the law says that Walmart can search me, then I could stand out in the parking lot possing as "Mr. Price Cutter" and search people all day. Even a police officer is not allowed to search your car without your consent...only your person. Most people don't know that either, I guess. Walmart does get alot of theft, the police (not walmart employees) chase crooks a couple times a week at the Walmart here thru the woods!! As far as 10-15%, that may be their estimate, but if I were trying to justify something, I'd make it sound worse than it really was too. I know that the pharmacies can justify their prices too. LOL! A place like Walmart would have a hard time keeping someone out, the people working there change as fast as the cars going down the road, they'd never recognize ya!!

LOL! Have A Good Day!

Rowdy Yates    Posted 09-19-2004 at 20:44:47       [Reply]  [No Email]
Here is my 2 cents. My daughter and I went to an AutoZone, the moment we walked in the alarm went off...everyone in the place was starring, I just casually looked at my daughter and said, "I wonder what we won"? and kept on going as if nothing happened, we didn't buy anything and it went off when we left also, I just keep on going when those things happen as if nothing happened. As soon as we left there, we went to Walmart, Alarm went off when we walked in, I ignored it and went about me business, the whole time wondering why we were setting off alarms,??cell phone, pager??...I didn't know, but wondered what kind of confrontation I was going to get when I left if it went off again. Sure enough, when we went to leave, the alarm went off and here they came, wanting to look in my bags, I told them that I paid for these things, therefore they are now mine, and when they go get a search warrant and bring the sheriff with them, then and only then will they look in what is now my personal possesions. It has happened to me several times, and unless they are packing a gun with a search warrant...they are not looking. No security guards, employees, etc. have any right to detain or search a person whatsoever, most people don't know this. Something isn't stolen until you pass thru the doors, and probably if a person wanted to push the fact, it probably isn't really stolen until you have left the property (parking lot included). You can stuff your purse, coat and pockets full of goodies and you haven't stolen it until you leave the premises. Next time they try to stop ya, tell them to call the police and keep right on truckin'.

justice    Posted 09-20-2004 at 12:48:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
Sorry Rowdy but you are wrong on lots of points. The most important being that something is not stolen until you leave the property. In most states it is the crime of stealing to attempt to hide something for the purpose of stealing it. So as soon as you put it in your pocket, you've committed the crime. Now, some places may not treat it as such but that's the way most state laws read. Also in most states an average citizen can stop you and hold you until police arrive. Electronic security systems have their faults but you can't really do anything you want just because you live in the USA. Being an A-hole isn't a crime, but sometimes acting like one can be.

CathySD    Posted 09-20-2004 at 08:07:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
My daughter and I had a similar incident with the alarms. After it happened at the third store, we stopped and experimented with it, I carried everything and she even took off her shoes, still set it off. She started checking her pockets and had one of those sensor things stuck to the inside of the back pocket of her jeans. They'd been in the wash already, but the dang thing stuck tight. Removed it and didn't set off any more alarms.

big al    Posted 09-20-2004 at 04:11:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
its deemed probable cause and store security is within its rights to ask for a "search". This is a business that you entered into not your private home. I find it interesting that you would not cooperate with a store clerk when they are only doing their job, unless you have something to hide.

Rowdy Yates    Posted 09-20-2004 at 04:22:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
"Ask" is the key word. Hmmm, just because a person does not allow others to search their person, they are automatically "labeled". Last I new, I lived in the USA, not Iraq.

KatG    Posted 09-19-2004 at 19:24:17       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hubby had bought me a real nice western shirt at a Atwwods in Fort Smith AR...When we got home I was going to try it on and their was that huge magnetic thing,,,Knew it would ruin my shirt if I ripped it off and it is a hour drive to the Fort...I called the manager and told him about my problem...he asked the cashiers number..Apoligised and told me to have my husband cut it off with side cutters..I told himwhat if my shirt gets torn...he said will bring it back and we will amke it good...I then explain that it was a hour drive there and $10 worth of gas...he told me that those little contraptions were expensive also but that I could take it off with side cutters...Needless to say I will not buy anymore clothes there...the alarm never went off..KatG

ron,ar    Posted 09-19-2004 at 19:03:01       [Reply]  [No Email]
Happened to me several times with my 11 yr old, he was 8 at the time. I already knew their surveilance cameras had not worked in some time. (I got lots of friends work there)That is why they depended so much on that magnetic thingy. I made a large scene the last time. Made her apologize to him in front of all the folks that he was embarassed in front of. Told her to say it as loud as their recording had been. She ain't there no more.

mojo    Posted 09-20-2004 at 04:38:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
That's a wonderful idea! Make 'em apologize just as loud and annoyingly as that durn announcement! Only thing is the poor gal that works our door isn't the one responsible for the alarm, just the one stuck (albeit by the store) dealing with us suspicious characters. I told her (laughingly) to go annoy the cashier, he was the one that screwed up. He'd missed a DVD in a two DVD set. Maybe they're just hoping to hit the jackpot with random alarms...

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