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Cindi    Posted 09-20-2004 at 04:19:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
...yesterday because I got busy in other pursuits, and now I hate to post and run, but I have to go to work here pretty quick.

We have to remember that war is war and is not pretty, never has been, never will be. People get hurt, people get killed, ruthless dictators use their people as human shields and consider them expendable.

Bad things happen in wars. Laws are broken, people resort to animal behavior, and unless we have been staring down the barrel of an AK-47 we do not need to pass judgement. These things have been going on for years, fighting, torture, bad behavior all in the name of war. In all countries through the pages of history, and going back in time, any trace of torture we see or hear of nowadays pales in comparison.

So what's different? The media. Things we could only read about fifty years ago, we now have being broadcast in our living rooms and on our computer screens. Along with the media, comes the ability to manipulate exactly what is seen and heard by the masses, and then we still have to make up our minds what we want to believe about the course of events that led to the particular situation in question.

This is all nothing new. The only difference is we now have the technology to view these events firsthand and make up our own minds. Which is good and bad. The democrats would like nothing better than to convince us that this war is an atrocity and a waste of time and money and human lives. So they make a point of 'playing up' incidents that will make the Republicans look bad. "If it wasn't for George Bush...everything would be rosy and perfect and peaceful."

Horsesh*t.

No one can say what would have happened had Clinton, or Kerry, or Gore been president on 9/11/01. No one can say what would have happened had we not gone to war with Iraq. Conservatives prefer to believe that had we not attacked Iraq, that our incidents of terrorist activity on US soil would have been greatly increased. Liberals like to say that we lashed out in retaliation at the first available target.

The truth is, if we are not going to be led by the nose, we have to do our own research. You can put your faith in the Bible but if you put your faith in the wrong preacher and follow his example, you're still gonna go to he11.

You have to read that book yourself, cover to cover, and find your own interpretation. You can't just leave it up to Rev. Larry Whoever to tell you what it says and what it means. The same holds true with this war. You have to read those papers yourself and that means all of them from both sides, and draw your own conclusions. You can't rely on CNN or FOX or 'POLITICAL AGENDA OF THEIR OWN' media company to tell you what it all means.

In all fairness, if you're not researching both sides with an open mind, then you really can't have an accurate opinion. Right?


Paula    Posted 09-20-2004 at 06:00:34       [Reply]  [Send Email]
"The democrats would like nothing better than to convince us
that this war is an atrocity and a waste of time and money and
human lives. "

I'm not a democrat but that's my view entirely.

BTW, Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11. If we really wanted to
nip terorism in the bud we would have gone after SAUDI ARABIA
whose second export seems to be Wahabi Islam. But they're our
friends right?
15 of 19 of the terrorists on 9/11 were Saudi
They are lead by a Saudi Expat
They are funded by Saudi money.

So by all means, let's bomb the crap out of Iraq - a hen's tooth
in the middle east - a secular middle east governent. Of course
now we've created a vacuum in to which flows all manner of
foreign terrorist. If Iraqis didn't have a penchant for blowing
crap up, NOW they do.

And as for Saddam being a bastard. He'd been one for about 30
years, but back then he was OUR bastard. We didn't give a crap
that he was grinding his people into the dust. Just like we didn't
give a crap that the Talibhan was destroying Afghanistan since
'96. But now we're all concerned about our moral imperative to
save the world.

Right.
JMO
Paula


Slippin' back in..    Posted 09-20-2004 at 08:58:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
.. I was going to stay away until after elections, but I gotta say, 'Way to go, Paula! Them's Pearls of Wisdom you spoke, and eloquently, I might add! I totally agree! JB


bulldinkie    Posted 09-20-2004 at 05:49:07       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I think Clinton was too busy with Monica...Gore-Kerry I dont think could have handled 9/11..Kerry isnt saying what he wants to do all his doing is bad mouthing Bush.Forget the name calling,bad mouthing and say what you would do.Those 2 just dont have what it takes...The thing that gets me is everybody was ready to go to war,making songs etc,Then it gets tough they want nothing to do with it.


Alias    Posted 09-20-2004 at 05:01:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
Cindi Dear, Maybe some of those anti-war-bushites will read this and start thinking on their own but it's doubtful. People like that only march to the sound of one drum. Sad ain't it? Cause, they're still walzing to the tango.

Thanks, ..........gfp


Les...Yabbut    Posted 09-20-2004 at 04:30:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
How many times do you have to step in a pile of dog do in order to recognize it when you see it and smell it?
I gotta run, too. Playin this mawnin for a gatherin of seasoned citizens. Better dust off my AARP card.
Oh, that's right, I don't have one. Ain't got a whole lot of use for that organization. Gimme gimme gimme. Same as a lot of the veterans' groups.


Cindi    Posted 09-20-2004 at 04:36:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
I guess I have to know how you define dog do. (grin) Other than the obvious.

Til later.


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