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Trooper Writes 205 MPH Ticket
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Doc    Posted 09-22-2004 at 03:32:57       [Reply]  [No Email]
WABASHA, Minn. (Sept. 21) - With a State Patrol airplane overhead, a motorcyclist hit the throttle and possibly set the informal record for the fastest speeding ticket in Minnesota history: 205 mph.

On Saturday afternoon, State Patrol pilot Al Loney was flying near Wabasha, in southeastern Minnesota on the Wisconsin border, watching two motorcyclists racing along U.S. Highway 61.

When one of the riders shot forward, Loney was ready with his stopwatch. He clicked it once when the motorcycle reached a white marker on the road and again a quarter-mile later. The watch read 4.39 seconds, which Loney calculated to be 205 mph.

"I was in total disbelief," Loney told the St. Paul Pioneer Press for Tuesday's editions. "I had to double-check my watch because in 27 years I'd never seen anything move that fast."

Several law enforcement sources told the newspaper that, although no official records are kept, it was probably the fastest ticket ever written in the state.

After about three-quarters of a mile, the biker slowed to about 100 mph and let the other cycle catch up. By then Loney had radioed ahead to another state trooper, who pulled the two over soon afterward.

The State Patrol officer arrested the faster rider, 20-year-old Stillwater resident Samuel Armstrong Tilley, for reckless driving, driving without a motorcycle license - and driving 140 miles per hour over the posted speed limit of 65 mph.

A search of speeding tickets written by state troopers, who patrol most of the state's highways, between 1990 and February 2004 shows the next fastest ticket was for 150 mph in 1994 in Lake of the Woods County.

Tilley did not return calls from the newspaper to his home Monday. A working number for him could not immediately be found by The Associated Press on Tuesday.

Only a handful of exotic sports cars can reach 200 mph, but many high-performance motorcycles can top 175 mph. With minor modifications, they can hit 200 mph. Tilley was riding a Honda 1000, Loney said.

Kathy Swanson of the state Office of Traffic Safety said unless Tilley was wearing the kind of protective gear professional motorcycle racers wear, he was courting death at 200 mph.

"I'm not entirely sure what would happen if you crashed at 200 miles per hour," Swanson said. "But it wouldn't be pretty, that's for sure."


mud    Posted 09-22-2004 at 05:42:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
it aint the going fast-- its the stoppin fast what gets them.

i drove an apache pickup with bad king pins and lost control once. i cant guess what wheel wobble would be like on a motorcycle.

say-- any of you see that john deere motorcycle in farm show? feller built it using a pony motor. now thats my speed.


mojo    Posted 09-22-2004 at 06:03:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
Reminds me...had a '59 apache pickup back when and wanted to know the top speed, picked out a nice long strech of road and opened her up,96..97...98...99...BANG!...from the right an owl came flying off a fence post, caught it's wing on the hood ornament ('41 chevy flying lady), tore it off and then smacked into the windshield, took me 3 miles to get slowed down to turn around and go see what I'd hit. If it hadn't been for that hood ornament...it's a wonder I survived adolecence!


Bkeepr    Posted 09-22-2004 at 05:22:34       [Reply]  [No Email]
Last Saturday a 21 year old killed himself on a motorcycle about 2 miles down the road from us.

He was wearing *only* a helmet and tennis shoes, as was another guy he was riding alongside. Other bikers were filming them as they did stunts on the road (police got a lot of calls from drivers behind them who couldn't get by).

The nitwit was killed when he lost control of the bike while pulling a wheelie and smashed into a tow truck that happened to be on the shoulder picking up a breakdown.

Some folks were upset that the local paper carried the whole story on the front page, said it was "insensitive" to the family...my view is, the guy (guys, all of them) was a bozo who deserved what he got and they're all lucky that nobody innocent (like the poor tow truck operator, who was fortunately on the other side of the truck) got hurt or killed.

Tom A, the heartless one


Dennis/AR    Posted 09-22-2004 at 07:12:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
"Some folks were upset that the local paper carried the whole story on the front page, said it was "insensitive" to the family...my view is, the guy (guys, all of them) was a bozo who deserved what he got and they're all lucky that nobody innocent (like the poor tow truck operator, who was fortunately on the other side of the truck) got hurt or killed"

Tom,
Normally I don't disagree with your post but as a parent that has lost three children I find the above unecessary and cold hearted. No one deserves to die in an accident and a young man doing young man stuff is no different.
God forbid you should have any of your children die and thaen have someone with your attitude print something like that on a bullentin board.


Bkeepr    Posted 09-22-2004 at 09:25:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
Dennis:

I am truly sorry to hear about your losses, and I thank God every day that he has not challenged me in that way, and ask that he won't because I don't know that I'm that strong. And I really do feel sorry for the family left behind, even if I come across as callous.

BUT, folks like this guy are a danger to others. The parents made a statement they're "happy he died doing what he loved." That's the wrong message to send to all the other youngsters out there doing the same thing every day. The message needs to be "look how stupid this loss of life was. No 'fun' is worth this suffering."

This guy and all the others around him could have killed somebody else anytime...I had personally called the police repeatedly in the past several years as folks like them cruise by my place doing stunts, racing, and playing chicken with other cars. If they'd gotten caught months ago, maybe this unnecessary death wouldn't have happened.

So I can't feel much sorrow for somebody who was doing something so arrogantly stupid and dangerous to others...my own kid (or Mother or wife) could have been in this guy's path.

My point is that when you bring it on yourself--as this individual did, or the one in the original post who was doing 205 mph--it is *not* an accident but something any reasonable person would have foreseen and avoided. So I'm sorry for offending you, but I write what I feel in the hope that others may hear the story and maybe think twice before doing stupid stuff and killing themselves or others.

Tom


RN    Posted 09-22-2004 at 14:16:03       [Reply]  [No Email]
Brings back memories- cruising 90+ in S Dakota coming back from Sturgis, slow down for patrol car, told to stop obstructing traffic until I crossed border into Minnesota. Funerals of riding buddies hitting fire plug when drunk, hitting deer, passing truck on bridge- 7 down. Family at funerals not knowing how wasted deceased was at time it happened. Wakeing up in hospital after indulging in Black Jack , then riding home in holiday traffic. Still riding some, not drinking. Old friends funerals now more cancer and heart attacks. RN.


~Lenore    Posted 09-22-2004 at 11:57:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
It is sad when anyone dies like that.
I understood your sentiments, Tom.
Soft pedaling it in the news story is wrong.
I agree if the whole story were told maybe some other "Evil Kinevel wanna be" would read it and think twice about it. Maybe even the parents or loved ones would say look at this please dont do anything that dangerous and stupid.

It is similar to not giving children "bad grades" when they dont study and make good grades because it might hurt their "self esteem". What self esteem? If they had it to begin with they would do the work and achieve.


Salmoneye    Posted 09-22-2004 at 06:29:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
No arguments from me...

Salmoneye, The Also Heartless


Steve from TN    Posted 09-22-2004 at 04:47:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
"Kathy Swanson of the state Office of Traffic Safety said unless Tilley was wearing the kind of protective gear professional motorcycle racers wear, he was courting death at 200 mph."

I would say he was going steady with death. Maybe he wants to win the Darwin award of the year.


Chad K    Posted 09-22-2004 at 04:19:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
There's a Darwin award candidate!
I don't doubt for a minute that the guy was going that fast either. I've been on a buddies bike; I chickened out at 115 mph. Thats moving! it's unbeliveable how fast they will get up to 100mph too..hehehe, I've tried....


mojo    Posted 09-22-2004 at 04:09:37       [Reply]  [No Email]
Don't believe ANY speed is a safe one to crash on a motorcycle, I don't care what kind of protective gear you're wearing!

BTW, I once got a speeding ticket for going 128, and that was clocked with a radar gun. I honestly believe the state trooper enjoyed it just as much as I did. More so probably, he didn't have to pay the ticket! Teenage boys should not have been exposed to 'Smokey and the Bandit' and 'The Dukes of Hazzard'! The patrolman went on to be my state represenative and I've never failed to vote for him.


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