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DeadCarp    Posted 04-22-2002 at 06:43:16       [Reply]  [No Email]

Isn't this little gal adorable? Medium-sized pup - no name yet - up for adoption in Pennsylvania


Katrina - know of any Greater Swiss Mountain pups    Posted 04-22-2002 at 13:22:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
for sale? This is the perfect breed for what we need and then found out the breeder wanted $1200 for a pup. Anyone out there with any connections or ideas? We have a farm with cattle, horses, chickens and 4 young children.


Chuck, WA    Posted 04-22-2002 at 12:31:26       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Sure wish you were closer to Washington Sate. She's the spittin' image of my last dog - Aussie/border collie cross. Loved that dog but lost her quite a few years ago, and am about ready to find another. Cost? Other info?


LH    Posted 04-22-2002 at 07:50:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
That sure is one pretty Australian shepherd looking type of pup. We've raised and crossed them with Great Pyrenees for several years, and yo can't beat the ussie's for working livestock.


Mark Hendershot    Posted 04-22-2002 at 06:51:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
With a Mug like that he should go in a miniute!! Sure is a cute one there! Kind of like Newfoundland Puppys you just can't turn them down but they grow up fast into a real BIG Dogs!!! Mark H.


GusandEdie    Posted 04-22-2002 at 07:42:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hey Mark, I saw the pic of your Newfoundland. What is their purpose? Hunting?


Mark Hendershot    Posted 04-22-2002 at 08:08:41       [Reply]  [No Email]
The Newfoundlands were bred for Draft Work and water rescue along with search and rescue. They used to hitch them up in teams for pulling logs and stuff in wagons in Newfoundland. They have a real drive to find people and can smell bodys under water. They have web feet and can swim real good. We have done rescue work in the snow with them. You turn them loose and they will find people buired under the snow and are real good for tracking people lost. They used to have them on Sailing Ships and if some one would fall over board they would jump off the ship and stay with the person till the ship could turn aroun. They also used them them to take ropes out to the ships that would wreck on the rocks to get the people off. All around good people dog that will protect you and good with children. Not mean but if needed they can do the job. They range from from 120-185 lbs and the standard is 28" at the sholder. A dog in our line held the record for weight pull 3,200lbs 30 ft in 15 seconds on a flat car with steel wheels. So the only way you can stop them is to get the front end off the ground or they will just drag you around. We love having them around for companion dogs and used to hitch them up to sleds and wagons for rides. One nice thing is you don't have to bend over to pet them and when you give them a hug you can squeese them and you have a lot of dog to wrap your arms around. Make good pillows too. Mark H.


Sammie    Posted 04-22-2002 at 10:55:56       [Reply]  [No Email]
What do the pups sell for? What can they NOT do? Sounds like you know the breed well. What is best mixed breed Newfie for SAR?


Mark Hendershot    Posted 04-22-2002 at 11:47:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
As far as mixed breed that is a subject we Newfoundland owner don't like to see happen. It is better to use a pure bred Newfoundland. Puppys are costly! They run between $1,000 and $1,500 from a good breeder. Our brown one cost $1,500 and stud service from him is 1,000 and that is the going amount. 10 to 12 years is good for the Giant Breed and if you were to get one you would want the hips, heart and elbows certified good from both parents and down the line also. Not much a Neuf can't do as far as work they perfer cooler weather but can live where it's hotter just need some shade during real hot times and some water to play in for fun. I have got AKC Tracking titles with them befor and they do it naturaly you just have to learn how to read the dog. They can't run like a Husky can for miles and miles but they sure can out do me. You normaly have to go thru some hoops to get one from a breeder and most of the time there is a waiting list. The question and answering sheet you go thru is long befor they will sell you one due to people wanting to mix the breed with other types of dogs. You might just be asking for a bad dog from a back yard breeder that dose not know blood lines to develope you a good dog. Once you get one you will allways say there are dogs and then there are Newfoundlands. You might be able to contact a club on the internet or in your area for a Rescue Neuf which are good dogs but people have got one because they were neat but forgot to learn about the breed first and had to give it away due to its size and wanting company and not doing good just chained up in a back yard. That is one reason for the high cost of one too it weeds out a lot of people who want one for attention and then just dump it after they get into something else. If you have any questions just ask we used to breed them but now just own them. Mark H.


Sammie    Posted 04-22-2002 at 12:30:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
The reason I was asking about the mixed breed is because accidents happen!! And I knew I couldn't afford a pure bred. I have the room for a big dog and since we have a K-9 unit in SAR, I was interested in a dog that would fit into my "life" and I could also train for tracking. IT sounds like they are great dogs for the right person and I agree with you about deliberately mixing the breeds. My dogs mother was a pure bred doxy - dad was ? She looks like dad should have been a golden retriever, just can't picture that one!! lol She has been quite the good buddy for alot of years and what she looses in looks and proportion, she makes up for in heart, quite the nose too but never taught what to do with it.

Thanks for the answer, Mark. Maybe someday I'll be up your way and would enjoy seeing that great ranch and beautiful 4 legged family of yours, if you don't mind.


Mark Hendershot    Posted 04-22-2002 at 14:25:57       [Reply]  [No Email]
The rescue Neufs you can get for free they are up for adoption. Great dogs we have had 3-of them. We end up giving the older ones a home to finish there life at. We have got so much from them this is our way of giving the older guys a great place to spend there last days at. Breaks our hearts when people don't want the older ones anymore!! Some people like to dump them when they don't move as good as they used to, like I do! Accidents do happen and alot of times they go to rescue homes. They first go to people who know Neufs for a while to see if the dog can be adopted out if not they are put down. You can't have a mean 180lb dog and we don't want bad Neufs out there to give them a bad name. Mark H.


Sammie    Posted 04-22-2002 at 14:36:16       [Reply]  [No Email]
Mark, that is a possibility too. I rather like not having to potty train a pup!! lol I dont' move fast either but if the pooch can move at all, he can still be a k-9, SAR, if we are the only ones to show up, well, we are what they get and I'm sure he will teach me alot. If he can't move, he can keep me company when I'm home and have some room to run around - long as he doesn't jump the fence and get hit. How do I find out about these dogs?


Mark Hendershot    Posted 04-22-2002 at 14:49:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
Go on the inernet and look for "Newfoundland+Clubs" and you will see some and look if there is one in your area. Before you talk to anyone learn all you can about the breed first so you will have a better chance of getting one. Read all the things you can on the sites. You will be asked why you want one and if you know anything about the breed. The more you know the better chance of getting your foot in the door. The people in these clubs are a clickey type group and place high values on the Newfoundland breed. They don't just give them to every one who wants one. If you are going to do rescue work with it you will have a better chance getting one do to they like them to become working dogs since that's what they were bred for in the first place and that's what makes them healty and happy. Good Luck! Mark H.


Sammie    Posted 04-22-2002 at 20:27:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thanks Mark. I'll do just that. Our SAR only has shepards and golden or black retrievers in training. I'll do just as you say and do alot of reading. Best to know what I'd be getting into.


Mark Hendershot    Posted 04-22-2002 at 22:07:22       [Reply]  [No Email]
I checked and there are a lot of clubs listed on the net for information. Good luck, Mark H.


lzz0s3@yahoo.com    Posted 04-22-2002 at 08:35:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
How long average do they live?


GusandEdie    Posted 04-22-2002 at 08:40:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
Dog of that size, 10 to 12 good years and then I'm sure health issues would kick in.


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